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Strukov’s company has denied the incident entirely, stating that he was in Moscow on the day in question and calling the reports “disinformation.” But court documents confirm that a judge had already banned him and his family from leaving the country, and government agencies moved quickly to enforce it.
I will now recommend the Sad Oligarch podcast. Short series on the mysterious deaths of Russian oligarchs in the last few years.
Ooooh, gringo broligarchs, cast your eyes upon all the fucks left to give, and see that $Trump wallet may also be empty.
If you nationalize your industry, you should be doing it to reform and re-gear it to support your country.
Clearly, Putin here is not interested in making it good for the country, but that his petty war has him cash-strapped and needs to forcibly 'borrow' his billionaire friends' assets.
This is a pretty good example of why I say even millinoaires and billionaires should support a functional democractic society with taxation and regulation and social safety nets. Its the old penny wise and pound foolish. Getting a sliver more and a sliver more and then you lose it all because the rule of law was thrown out long ago. It won't necessarily take that long to. At a certain point it could happen at any time. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't.
This all depends on the people born into wealth being reasonable people.
Most are unhinged psychopaths or nepo babies with too much ego.
Which is why wealth needs to be forcefully redistributed, they won't do it voluntarily.
a functional democratic society would not have billionaires and hopefully millionaires neither
This is the oligarchy that American technocrats want to recreate at home. Owning things is dependent on being alive. Maybe paying a couple percent extra on taxes is worth it.
Billionaires siding with dictators thinking they'll be protected?
Some folks became billionaires in Russia simply because they were friends of Putin though.
These may truly be protected class. Everyone else though - out the window as soon as they outlive their usefulness.
It's funny to me that they think they'll be special, every single time. "They won't throw me out the window for my fortune!"
Well, in the case of Nazi Germany it worked spectacularly well. Many of Germanys most rich people are inheritors to industrial fortunes that got unimaginably rich with selling weapons to the Nazi army and using forced labor from the concentration camps. The families Quandt/Klatten (BMW) and Porsche/Piech (Porsche,VW, Audi...) come to mind directly. The Krupps are also still in the game although they have gambled a lot of money away over the past decades
~~Hitler didn't stay in power long enough to take everything though~~. (my bad, it was longer than I thought). Also, they probably toed the line and didn't piss him off so they could make lots of money. They weren't special either.
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Nah. They all play this game; they all know the risk. It’s all about gaining leverage and the correct alignment at the right time.
He probably knows it’s happening and sacrifices himself for his family and assets.
Usually they are. Dictators typically gain and keep power by appeasing the wealthy and powerful.
Not keep power, just to get it. Then they dump them once they've got it. See Giuliani, Musk, My Pillow guy, Herman Cain, etc.
I mean... No - to keep it. "No man rules alone." They need key supporters. However simply "being rich" is not enough.
It's funny because $3.5bln is nothing when trying to cover the war effort, but it'll spark a massive distrust in the Kremlin's inner circle, which is basically the only group of people that can realistically threaten Putin's very life.
I'm still waiting for these fuckers to finally grow some balls.
Nah. Russia will implode itself on its own even without resistance. As if Russia never learned anything that autocratic control over economy never works, because their political culture is too corrupt to function effectively.
Francis Fukuyama, as wrong as he was about the end of history, is still correct that dictatorships eventually collapse because they surround themselves with yes men who are too detached from reality. The invasion of Ukraine is the beginning of the end for Putin. It is only a matter of time.
the beginning of the end for Putin. It is only a matter of time.
With his age, he has all biological means to fuck around and never find out. I believe the legacy talk captures him, but the fact he himself would never meet any pushback makes many of his decisions way easier than if he was 40yo and had another 40+ to his rule. Any other minute of him fucking up foreign countries with a weaponised influence, not to say direct warfare, is a minute too much.
He could've tried to revive the country, and he got an easy start in the 00s, but he chosed to gamble it instead.
He could've tried to revive the country, and he got an easy start in the 00s, but he chosed to gamble it instead.
That's not why people become dictators. Not to mention that in autocratic environments heads of states don't really feel the consequences of their actions, and don't really mind throwing millions of their own people under the bus to bring some ephemeral former glory back.
The USA elite should take notice. It'll happen to them too. Trump will ruin them if things get between himself and them.
It’s all ready happening between him and Musk unless that’s all kayfabe
Trump Admin using national security as a pre-tense to take control over X/Twitter away from Musk, and effectively killing it in favour of Truth Social
Conversely, if Putin falls out a window, maybe they can keep their business.
They're scared they'll go down with him. But they'll finally have to accept the fact that they're fucked either way. At this point, getting rid of him is their best chance.
They're scared they'll go down with him. But they'll finally have to accept the fact that they're fucked either way. At this point, getting rid of him is their best chance.
Yup. They're at the point where the consequences of obedience are as bad as defiance.
Best have him fall out a window and see if prospects change.
Please. There are hundreds ready to take Putins place. Some politically, but hundreds behind the scenes who also have finger puppets ready for ”power” who can step in for both Medvedev and Putin. The rest of the dog kennel (like Lavrov) will keep barking for their masters sake.
Please. There are hundreds ready to take Putins place. Some politically, but hundreds behind the scenes who also have finger puppets ready for ”power” who can step in for both Medvedev and Putin. The rest of the dog kennel (like Lavrov) will keep barking for their masters sake.
It sure sounds like you're advocating staying meek and submissive in the face of Tyranny.
I guess you didn’t really read. Just pointing out that you need to do more than kill the puppetmaster to replace all those who he either trained or who learned how to thrive in his absence.
I guess you didn’t really read. Just pointing out that you need to do more than kill the puppetmaster to replace all those who he either trained or who learned how to thrive in his absence.
I guess you didn't really understand my comment.
You'd have to be a complete knuckehead to think that the point of killing a Tyrant is to have one of their trainees take over.
Somebody give Trump the idea to do this to Musk.
that cunt Zuckerberg should pay attention.
Your comment will probably get removed. So for this sweet moment. I agree.
It's not a threat to someone's health or life. Simply pointing out that he's a fool to think that similar groups wouldn't turn on him if they wanted to. All gung ho to try and join them. I think the comment is safe.
The reddit still echo's in my head. Although not totally safe here, the past trauma is real.