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[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

prompt injection phish by email

so glad these things have a solid security model and this totally won’t result in a scrambled half-assed fix

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So apparently Grok is even more of a Nazi conspiracy loon now.

I'm sure a Tucker Carlson interview is going to happen soon.

[–] mii@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Remember Devin, the AI coding bot that turned out to be a complete scam?

Well, looks like Goldman Sachs decided to let it loose on its code base. In YOLO mode too, it seems.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would be really funny if Devin caused a financial crash this way

Total fucking Devin move if you ask me.

[–] dovel@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago

Devin will be supervised by human employees and will handle jobs that engineers often consider drudgery, like updating internal code to newer programing languages, he said.

Good luck to the workers having to debug that shit.

Goldman is the first major bank to use Devin, according to Cognition, which was founded in late 2023 by a trio of engineers and whose staff is reportedly stocked with champion coders.

Being good at Codeforces contests surely translates to any other domain. I expect the Cognition guys to fully deliver on their promises.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago
[–] TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systems 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Elon makes Grok developers install intrusive surveillance software on their laptops. They're being told to enable screen captures and URL tracking.

In conjunction with his comments about making it antiwoke by modifying the input data rather then relying on a system prompt after filling it with everything, it's hard not to view this as part of an attempt to ideologically monitor these tutors to make sure they're not going to select against versions of the model that aren't in the desired range of "closeted Nazi scumbag."

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

So random thought, you now how LW is worried about an seed AI going foom right, how it bootstraps itself into a new AI with better capabilities which bootstraps etc all the way till the singularity.

Why isn't it happening? Gpt-2 was released 2019, 3 2022, 4 2023, so where is 5 and 6? Where is our double event?

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's possible we may be catching sight of the first shy movements towards a pivot to robotics:

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/autonomous-machines/embedded-systems/jetson-orin/nano-super-developer-kit/

https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/hugging-face-opens-up-orders-for-its-reachy-mini-desktop-robots/

Both developer kits, because it's always a maybe the clients will figure something out type of business model these days.

[–] istewart@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But how are they going to awkwardly cram robots in everywhere, to follow up the overwhelming success of AI? Self-crashing cars are a gimme, but maybe a "sealed for your protection" Amazon locker with a robot arm that handles the package for you?

I was in LA this time a couple years ago, and some robot delivery startup had already left their little motorized shopping carts littering the sidewalks around Hollywood. I never saw them moving, they just sat there almost like they were abandoned.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 6 points 1 month ago

But how are they going to awkwardly cram robots in everywhere, to follow up the overwhelming success of AI?

Good question - AFAICT, they're gonna struggle to find places to cram their bubble-bots into. Plus, nothing's gonna stop Joe Public from wrecking them in the streets - and given we've already seen Waymos getting torched and Lime scooters getting wrecked these AI-linked 'bots are likely next on the chopping block.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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