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Genuine question; what’s the difference between DeepSeek gathering data and for example ChatGPT or Gemini?
Three of them are (I assume) great for usage but disastrous regard privacy and data.
Genuine question; what’s the difference between DeepSeek gathering data and for example ChatGPT or Gemini?
because China bad and USA good :(
chatgpt and gemini gather data for the US govt, which is the one actively fucking europe over at the moment. so clearly, deepseek is what they need to worry about.
AFAIK per EU law the collected data has to stay in data centers in the EU, ChatGPT and Gemini at least pretend to conform while Deepseek explicitly states that the data is stored in Chinese data centers.
Yes but you see a white man having control of your data is much better than a colored one!
This is not protecting peoples privacy but straight censorship. Just like how US wanted to ban TikTok.
US want to ban TikTok, because it's a Chinese company, it has nothing to do with privacy, while in the EU a service must fullfit the GDPR to be allowed to offer their service in the EU and DeepSeek, among others, don't. This has a lot to do with the privacy rights in the EU, those which in the USA don't exist, not with censorship. Privacy is a basic right in the EU and not even the Police can access sensible personal data or track your activity without an court order, less aprivate company for advertising reasons or for training their AIs. But yes, right wing politicians in Germany want to change this, but this isn't so easy in a working Democracy where it need to be approved with a majorit in th Bundestag.
This is so pathetic now. US companies does " pretend" to storage data in Europe, then, 4 years later a couple of them are found out they did not (others did too but were not found to doing so) and an investigation and lawsuit is brought up and 6 years later found guilty and penalized a maximum of 10% of profits for that year (so effectively 1% profit/yr cost of business). Profits brought by the breach of European safeguards... tens times more than the potential penalties. Any CEO has to, by law, give the maximum profits to their investors, and they are just doing that.
But of course, the EU just won't do that litigation dance with the Chinese companies, the EU knows well it is just a scam to pretend doing something to protect europeans... to Chinese companies, because US does not like, the EU just ban them. The EU will never ban a US company, no matter how many violations they do.
There are differences which prove that GDPR is far from perfect, but lightyears better from what the US permits.
Eg. M$ US
vs M$ EU (Germany)
Oh for sure! No doubt, at least makes people conscious of that. Now, the larger companies don't have any problem bypassing the EU law and the incentives are mainly untouched for them to change.
The gdpr isn't exactly something you quite easily bupass...
Exactm every company in the RU is forced by law to fullfit the minimum of the GDPR to be able to sell their product, the fines are high, even for Google, MS and META, Nusk even said taking X out of the EU (I would approve it).
They can pretty easily just pass a law banning it and Apple and Google will remove it from the German app store
This is just xenophobia and political posturing, actual policy is too much to ask.
but why? there is not valid reason to remove only DeepSeek, they should remove AI all together including Gemini and ChatGPT
It's a cold war thing
Okay, then tell them that. I’m just saying urging is stupid. Lawmakers can make laws.
Everyone here knows that not how policy is made.
US corpos tell EU what they need, EU does it. China does not have such sway with EU with some exceptions.
Your regime whore politician would not take a piss on you, if you were on fire.
Germany’s going hard right again. Severe crackdowns on civil rights are escalating. They’re arresting people for posting criticism of political efforts online, ramping up their military, pushing far-right politicians into office, etc.
Time to eradicate the Nazis again.
I'm from Spain, we also have problems with nazis, but not so as in Germany, but our left gov has a hard time with these hooligans.
Bist du dumm oder sowas?
Cope lol