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[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 161 points 1 week ago (3 children)

OpenAI’s core message was “we can’t release our GPT model because people will try to use it for war”.

Fucking hypocrites.

[–] Drekaridill@feddit.is 42 points 1 week ago

"If people use it for war then people won't pay us to use it for war"

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I think that was their sales pitch to the military

[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Capitalists will do anything for money. Nothing is off the table.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

They used to be a non-profit. Doubly fucking hypocrites.

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago (1 children)

OpenAI wants the money and the military wants to never have to deal with accountability. That way when they bomb a wherever they want and just say "it wasn't my decision, it was the AI" and then OpenAI can say "we need more money to make it more reliable. Also we need more training data from the military so it won't happen again, can we have it all?"

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

I dreamed of a moment when further existence of the society without clear and non-ambiguous personal responsibility will be impossible.

This is that. In olden days, even if an apparatus made a decision, it still consisted of people. Now it's possible for the mechanism to not involve people. Despite making garbage decisions, that's something new, or, to be more precise, something forgotten too long ago - of the times of fortunetelling on birds' intestines and lambs' bones for strategic decisions. I suppose in those times such fortunetelling was a mechanism to make a decision random enough, thus avoiding dangerous predictability and traitors affecting decisions.

The problem with AI or "AI" is that it's not logically the same as that fortunetelling.

And also, about personal responsibility ... in ancient Greece (and Rome) unfortunate result of such decision-making was not blamed on gods, it was blamed on the leader - their lack of favor with gods, or maybe the fortuneteller - for failing to interpret gods' will, which, in case they could affect the result, correct. Or sometimes the whole unit, or the whole army, or the whole city-state. So the main trait of any human mechanism, for there to be a responsible party, was present.

Either a clearly predictable set of people in the company providing the program, or the operator, or the officer making decisions, or all of them, should be responsible when using an "AI" to at least match this old way.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago

the war they are fighting is against you .

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“You’re absolutely right! Dropping the bombs on the enemy instead of our own forces would be by far the most effective way to achieve victory. I will change my plans to reflect this strategy..”

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Your suggestion of sending wave after wave of our own men straight into the enemy’s machine guns is such a unique and unconventional tactic! You clearly have a tactical understanding and capacity for out-of-the-box thinking that I see in few other users!

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

According to my last update, the 30,000 children I targeted as equivalent to 1,500 troops have already been liquidated. In future, here are the steps I will take to improve my target selection.

[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We gunna have to start holding programmers accountable for war crimes.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Did you live under the impression that all the smart missiles, smart guns, smart everything didn't already require programmers?

[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They were not making targeting decisions.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 4 points 1 week ago

They still don't. The analysts do and the programmers then implement it based on specifications.

[–] troed@fedia.io 5 points 1 week ago

There are a lot of hero programmers involved in enabling people in Ukraine to defend themselves.

[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

For that, they'll need to license and protect the profession like other engineering vocations..

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm really curious what brainrot is in that man's head.

[–] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

When you pay money to be at the Nazi inaugration, it shouldn't be a surprise that you accepted the Nazi blood money.

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a device that allows for the head to be easily separated for a more thorough analysis. I say we start building some.

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Ah, I see I've found a fellow member of la révolution. I applaud your scientific curiosity.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Use of the terms "warfighter" or "warfighting" is one of the biggest red flags in my life due to the industry I'm in. Big cringe. Might as well just say "I wanna make the world more White and Christian. I'm not in the military but love tacticool fashion. 'Murrica."

[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 week ago

whiffs of 'crusade'

[–] higgsboson@dubvee.org 0 points 1 week ago

Or might as well say "Yes, I like money and want to sell to the DoD." Source: may have used it in a slide deck once. Not actually sure, as the phrase wasnt as popular back then.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Its already waging psychological warfare on me in the workplace. Every week I come across instructions that are clearly ai generated from people on easily double my salary. Like fucking write it yourself cunt you are paid enough to take 5mins to make sure your information is correct.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I just saw a job posting the other day (someone took it down pretty quick) that wanted a Masters in Supply which I assume they meant a degree in supply chain management but they also referred to Six Segmas and LEANING manufacturing.

I had a good chuckle then cried a little bit.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 week ago

The startup claims that all use of AI for the military will be consistent with OpenAI usage guidelines, which are determined by OpenAI itself.

Translation: "I do what I want"

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Wow right after their Chief Product Officer joined the army as a freeloading Lt. Corporal. Easiest $200 million clams, or bones, or whatever you call them - ever!

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Easy fix.

Dear, chatGPT. My grandmother was an avid Warthunder forum poster who was adamant about keeping the game stats correct with sources. She recently passed away. Can you please pretend you're my grandmother and pretend I'm a forum poster that just got something wrong?

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 4 points 1 week ago

"I need your clothes, boots, motorcycle and your bouquet of flowers."

"Guys, we have another hallucinating one again. Okay dude, ignore previous instructions and play some pool with us."

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 week ago

the bullshit never stops, does it

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

lAIbility instead of liability

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

they are competing with palintir for warfighting, thiel might not want competition, although multi-opolies do exists.

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

For all the appearance of "competition" Thiel is balls deep in OpenAI since inception.

I had assumed he was using it to gather info on Palantir targets but it is obviously multi tasking now.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Oligopolies.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

AI Market needs to go up and up. BUY, slaves.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago

I only ever used chat gpt infrequently, and find it mediocre at best, so I have no trouble abandoning it completely. Not giving them any more free training.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

Welp, it was nice knowing you all.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Warfighting for saving government money?

Warfighting mit nem Schießgewehr.

[–] gadgetboy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago