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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

lack of communities, not found on lemmy, but is active on reddit. even some mirrors are rarely have new posts. more pros than cons though.

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[–] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The tankies

[–] Flickerby@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The tankies are far and away the largest problem. It's the number one reason why lemmy hasn't grown. Even when I signed up years ago from the reddit exodus every post I saw was heavily cautioned with "it's filled with tankies". And now every mention of it is being scrubbed for that reason. The second problem is the smaller size but see reason 1 for that.

Third problem is the sign up process being so excruciating. I understand it's to prevent bots but for every 2 bots it's preventing it's probably also preventing 1 actual user from signing up. I love this place despite the small size, because I can just sequester off all the tankies entirely on Connect, but if the creators don't realize they're actively standing in the way of growth by the actions they're taking and step away from all their moderation actions to focus on administration and development instead the outlook doesn't look too great.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

Tankies are ableist and don’t ever let them forget it

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[–] ter_maxima@jlai.lu 57 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Not enough people for even slightly niche communities. Wanna talk about smash brothers ? 732 people, only 2 posts in the last month.

This is why people still use reddit on the side.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is exactly why I don't use Reddit on the side. When I run out of content on Lemmy, there's no choice but to do something productive instead. Had to go 100% cold turkey on Reddit to make that work though.

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[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Smaller user base. It is both good and bad but the community for my city is dead (probably there were only like 8 of us on here).

Am old enough to know from experience that the early people on any platform are the computer geeks so expect the tech communities to thrive first - but as someone else said, music communities die, sports, arts, things that are pretty widely popular. Honestly happy with the slow and steady growth of the !cocktails@lemmy.world so if it's an indicator, the general interest people are joining just not quickly but some must be sticking. I would guess at some point it will be perfect then too big but who knows?

Personally I also miss the nonsexual nudes threads like nakedprogress and normalnudes. Again that's a lack of users issue, you need a lot of people willing to post, to have even a few willing to post nude.

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have trouble finding um what are they called here... Communities?... for the subjects I'm interested in. When I search, all I find is old posts or unrelated posts.

That's my biggest problem

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

FYI, your instance is shuttting down soon: https://lemm.ee/post/67603898

To find communities, !communitypromo@lemmy.ca is usually a good place

[–] weremacaque@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My first try at the Fediverse, I didn't know how important it is to instance-hop so when mine was down a lot more often than it was up, I temporarily went back to Reddit.

Oh, brilliant. Thanks.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 46 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Duplicate communities posting the same content over and over again.

Communities are tied to an instance. How many communities will die because lemm.ee is shutting down? There is a slightly mad rush to migrate communities already.

Lemmy should have used usent style naming for communities.

[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

the architecture of lemmy, both socially and technically, is not working as hoped and it's likely it will suffer an effective death before it evolves sufficiently to enable distributed communities

the federated model is too lumpy and fragmented at the same time

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think there is a feature request to allow communities to subscribe to other communities so that their posts and comments are synced.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

Great, so the duplication happens automatically! This is solving the wrong problem, IMHO...

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[–] remon@ani.social 89 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Same as with every other social media ... the people.

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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago (3 children)

lemmy.ml and its admins being the developers at the same time.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

I don't think that in itself if the problem. anyone can host an instance. The problem is lemmy.ml being the apparent default instance, advertising itself as an instance for privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, and not mentioning seemingly anywhere in the description/rules that only red flavour authoritarian dogma is allowed in political discussion.

"America bad, therefore former 'communist' russia and current 'communist' china good."

Edit: it's not featured as prominently as it used to be on join-lemmy.org so things may be improving. they should still mention in the description that western viewpoints on many issues are not allowed due to "rule 1"

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I realized .ml was fucking insane and delusional when they glorified Stalin and refused to recognize the atrocities he committed.

No matter what your political stance is, as soon as you deny negative facts and exclusively push the "positives" it becomes a problem and may radicalize you (if that isn't already the case).

What happened to nuanced moderate politics? It seems people unconditionally put the "left" or "right" label on themselves. And ironically these blind followers will have the audacity to call anyone close to the political center, or people who are honest with themselves, cowards.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, well the guy who runs it is a notorious tankie.

You either tow the pro stalinist line or you are punished

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

I was on .ml first after leaving reddit, because I didn't know this was the case, until I called out straight up state propaganda and defended capitalism with social and ethical policies once. You can imagine how they responded to that.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yea I visited the instance index some time ago because I had to pick a replacement for lemm.ee (rip in peace), saw the description under lemmy.ml and wondered whether they were being intentionally or accidentally misleading.

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Lemmy.ml needs to be defederated from all other instances. It's literally an extremist instance of hate and bigotry.

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[–] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

As everyone has pointed out, people and content. Its good in some ways since not every post is drowned out with one thousand replies nobody will ever see, but at the same time, you're not getting much of anything at all sometimes. Not even very niche ones either. Even groups that represent entire states has limited info or replies still. If it can grow to that size and see some more unique and local content more I think even that would be a much better place for it to be.

[–] JakoJakoJako13@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah this is my issue with it. I can find all the arts, Linux, and political stuff just fine. Sports, music, and places communities are seriously lacking. They exist, but are a shell of what you'd hope they'd be. Engagement is so low, it's not worth bothering. The sports and music communities being so small and sparse is a real bummer.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 55 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Niche communities. Large spaces are built of small niche interest groups. The tooling around small spaces needs to be first class if we want the larger space to be healthy

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

same, certain things location based subs are not found on lemmy, and youtuber channel based discussions also not found here. plus things like like health, medical,,,etc. movies/entertainment has enough to satisfy people, but not to the extent as on reddit.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

The lemmy.ml instance not being treated the same as the rest of the Triad in regards to defederation

Some highlights from the link:

"Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

"See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558

CW: Original transphobic Comment from Nutomic

"NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

"If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

And a long list of bans/censorship and allowing the proliferation of known propaganda and misinformation outlets clearly demonstrating use of their instance and recognition to force a political narrative

[–] Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am currently working on a report on vote manipulation and the early results are showing clear signs of the some most prolific .ml accounts participating in brigading and vote manipulation.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

that was so pervasive on reddit, you either get banned, or ended up arguing more and then get banned.

I can't count the number of times I made a comment way deep in a chain that conflicts with .ml dogma, and after the first downvote, there are suddenly 5 more within minutes

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Piefed solves that issue: https://piefed.zip/post/100161

All comments from 5 crossposts in a single view

A few options

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Issues that would be solved by time/gaining more users

  • Not nearly enough people to cover all the niche interest communities that Reddit does. At Reddit you find an expert on almost any topic to help you with your problems and you'll find information on pretty much anything. Lemmy isn't there yet.
  • Not nearly enough history. A lot of content is still good and informative after many years. Lemmy doesn't have a library of old-but-still-relevant content to search.

Issues independent of user count

  • Search sucks. Reddit's search does too, but reddit is easily searchable via Google. Lemmy isn't.
  • Onboarding is difficult, because you have to choose an instance, which is hugely important, but a newcomer has no idea what makes/is a good community to join

Issues that get worse with more users (aka, the potentially deal-breaking issues)

  • Lemmy scales terribly. Every larger instance needs to retain a copy of pretty much all other content out there, and each comment/like/delete/update/... needs to be propagated to every other major instance out there. Adding more instances thus increases complexity and cost instead of decreasing it. Running a major lemmy instance is already prohibitively expensive now, with just about 50k monthly active users. If Lemmy was to scale to Reddit numbers (1.1 billion monthly active users, roughly 22 000x the number of users), everything would just break down.
  • Moderation work scales just as terribly. Not only does an admin need to make sure the communities on their instance are moderated, but they also need to moderate all other communities on all other instances.
  • Related to the last point, there's some legal issues as well if an admin doesn't moderate all other instances. Since content is copied from other instances to your instance, illegal content (e.g. illegal pornography, copyrighted works, ...) are also copied to your own server without your active participation. That makes it legally mandatory to moderate all other communities.
  • Legal pitfalls in general. If lemmy becomes sizeable enough, all sorts of laws in regards to social media platforms will apply. That's one thing if the social media platform is run by a huge corporation with a legal department, but it's an entirely different story for a tiny group of non-profit idealists running the social media platform.
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[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 36 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Onboarding. I think it'll be better if people promoted individual instances instead of Lemmy as a whole. As a whole, it seems vague.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

The lack of content compared to reddit. If you look at !learn_programming@programming.dev for example, there is only one post this week, and 4 posts this month. How is it that, with all the web developers and AI vibe coding shit, no one is actually asking questions?

When I was on reddit, I had to hide posts because there were 10 or 20 interesting questions every day.

[–] Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It's a negative feedback loop. There is a good chance programmers asking questions NEED the answer (homework, work-work) so they don't risk asking in low pop forums, making the forum low pop because there are no questions.

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 25 points 2 days ago (69 children)

It’s just as much a left-wing echo chamber as Truth Social is a right-wing one - and that’s a problem in both cases. Some might say it’s fine because we’re on the right side of history and they’re not, or something along those lines - but the people on Truth Social think the exact same thing. No one’s views ever change that way.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The right wing instances are just defederated from this larger federated group because the people on them were unable to follow the rules of other instances. Repeatedly, they would throw tantrums and create loads of dupe accounts to spam shit when people downvoted their shitty views or their accounts got banned. If they were capable of behaving with civility and following the rules, they'd still be here.

No idea how active that corner of the Lemmyverse is these days, but they have repeatedly chosen to behave in a way that leaves instance administrators with little choice other than defederation.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

I don't think there is such a thing as a left wing echo chamber. We bicker incessantly. The other day I was making a joke at the expense of the car-brain mentality and someone came at me for ableism.

I'm not mad at them, it's just illustrative of my point. We don't take shit from each other, and we take each other to task over jokes. The right will, meanwhile, forgive literal pedophilia, rape, and murder of each other. I'm sure as hell not saying we should, but we will never create an echo chamber as good as they do because of that.

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