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[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 231 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Paraphrasing:

"We only have the driver's word they were in self driving mode..."

"This isn't the first time a Tesla has driven onto train tracks..."

Since it isn't the first time I'm gonna go ahead and believe the driver, thanks.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 151 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Furthermore, with the amount of telemetry that those cars have The company knows whether it was in self drive or not when it went onto the track. So the fact that they didn't go public saying it wasn't means that it was in self-drive mode and they want to save the PR face and liability.

[–] IphtashuFitz@lemmy.world 95 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have a nephew that worked at Tesla as a software engineer for a couple years (he left about a year ago). I gave him the VIN to my Tesla and the amount of data he shared with me was crazy. He warned me that one of my brake lights was regularly logging errors. If their telemetry includes that sort of information then clearly they are logging a LOT of data.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Modern cars (in the US) are required to have an OBD-II Port for On-Board Diagnostics. I always assumed most cars these days were just sending some or all of the real-time OBD data to the manufacturer. GM definitely has been.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dude, in today's world we're lucky if they stop at the manufacturer. I know of a few insurances that have contracts through major dealers and they just automatically get the data that's registered via the cars systems. That way they can make better decisions regarding people's car insurance.

Nowadays it's a red flag if you join a car insurance and they don't offer to give you a discount if you put something like drive pass on which logs you're driving because it probably means that your car is already getting that data to them.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (13 children)

I've heard they also like to disengage self-driving mode right before a collision.

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Since the story has 3 separate incidents where "the driver let their Tesla turn left onto some railroad tracks" I'm going to posit:

Teslas on self-drive mode will turn left onto railroad tracks unless forcibly restrained.

Prove me wrong, Tesla

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[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The ~2010 runaway Toyota hysteria was ultimately blamed on mechanical problems less than half the time. Floor mats jamming the pedal, drivers mixing up gas/brake pedals in panic, downright lying to evade a speeding ticket, etc were cause for many cases.

Should a manufacturer be held accountable for legitimate flaws? Absolutely. Should drivers be absolved without the facts just because we don't like a company? I don't think so. But if Tesla has proof fsd was off, we'll know in a minute when they invade the driver's privacy and release driving events

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (13 children)

Tesla has constantly lied about their FSD for a decade. We don't trust them because they are untrustworthy, not because we don't like them.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 116 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It simply saw a superior technology and decided to attack.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 87 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Full stream ahead with the train puns

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[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tesla's new automatic suicide feature

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 days ago

I think that's called "murder"

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Full Self Destruction

It's stupider than I thought reading the headline. That car started driving down the fing tracks

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, the robotaxi has been live for all of a day and there's already footage of it driving on the wrong side of the road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-h0YXtF0c&t=420s

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (5 children)

How the fuck do you let any level 2 system go 40 to 50 fucking feet down the railroad tracks.

We're they asleep?

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 33 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure I'd be able to sleep through driving on the railroad tracks. I'm going to guess this person was simply incredibly fucking stupid, and thought the car would figure it out, instead of doing the bare fucking minimum of driving their goddamn 2 ton heavy death machine themself.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

LOL right? Like deciding to see what the car will do ON RAILWAY TRACKS is absolutely fucking bonkers.

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[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How could the left do this /s

[–] dollfacemenace@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Next up: "Train is a communistic tool to restrict vehicular freedom. Banish trains! More highways!"

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

This is unironocally something I've heard people argue about public transport in general, that its a tool to control people's movement.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

Train often frequented by Hamas supporters canceled a Tesla.

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[–] Eww@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Tesla's have a problem with the lefts.

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Elongated Musketon: UM THAT WAS JUST 1 FAULTY MODEL STOP CHERRY PICKING GUYS JUST BUY IT!!!1

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Clearly the train didn't yield properly, time to ban trains.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

I mean, he did specifically come up with his idiotic "Hyperloop" concept to kill California's high speed rail project

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

Damn. I hope the train is ok

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 35 points 3 days ago

Teslas do still have steering wheels, after all

You don't say!

[–] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If only there was a way to avoid the place where trains drive.

I checked first. They didn't make a turn into a crossing. It turned onto the tracks. Jalopnik says there's no official statement that it was actually driving under FSD(elusion) but if it was strictly under human driving (or FSD turned itself off after driving off) I guarantee Tesla will invade privacy and slander the driver by next day for the sake of court of public opinion

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[–] you_are_it@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every thing seems to turn to shit

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair it is a Tesla. It started out as shit.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It started out promising, then was consigned to be shit when Elon swore off LIDAR. If he kept his shitty little hands away from management and let the engineers do their thing, it could've been great.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 14 points 3 days ago

Car drove itself on to the tracks, gets hit by a train. This is some Maximum Overdrive shit.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Tesla's self-driving is pretty shite but they seem to have a particular problem with railway crossings, as also pointed out in the article. Of all of the obstacles for the self-driving system to fail to detect, the several thousand tons of moving steel is probably one of the worst outcomes.

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[–] PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Deregulation, ain't it great.

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[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 17 points 3 days ago

Working as expected then.

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