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Satellite imagery taken after the US strike on Iran's Fordow site showed smoke rising from the fuel enrichment plant. US President Donald Trump claimed key Iranian nuclear sites had been "obliterated," while Iran claimed it had removed nuclear material from the sites before the strikes.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 137 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The United states is a terrorist country.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (13 children)

The administration running the country are terrorists who target people, domestic and foreign. Please don't blame the people.

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Saying “The United States is a terrorist country” is exactly not blaming the working class people. The state itself is run by and operated by fascist terrorists.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I hope you don't think it's just the current administration. I don't blame the majority of the populace (in the same way I don't blame the average Israeli or Russian for example), but as a political entity this is nothing new for the USA.

Edit: or rather, from the outside looking in, this doesn't feel particularly off brand

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

"The administration" is (usually!) used to refer to the monolithic entity that continues without interruption (office of the prez, congress etc), "this administration" is used to refer to the specific current government/clarify in cases of ambiguity. Weird quirks of american english, what fun...

(Not disagreeing to be clear. Although this is a bit more transparently "dancing to the tune of the puppet master" than most of the US's other forays into the mid. east, I must say.)

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

find me a US President who didn't do/oversaw/allow war crimes?

I'll wait

it's not a just a Trump issue

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You disagree with the current war, the entire world is on fire because of US imperialism and colonization, and you can't distance yourself from all the benefits and pride you get from the "good side" of America.

Just like you can't separate America from it's history of being built on the backs of slaves and the institutional oppression that still comes from that, you can't separate your current comforts as an American from their direct causes: oppression and stealing the resources of other nations and using all your "most deadly military's" best stealth bombers and biggest bombs to bully the world through threats of regime change and economic sanctions. Trump isn't what's bad about America, he's just an accelerated conclusion to neo-liberal politics, this is Bill Clinton's America!

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about Russia, they are doing horrible shit all the same. It's not only US imperialism.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (21 children)

I’m an American and I hate to break this to you but the people elected this clown. That’s how it works here. You didn’t vote for him? Okay. But until you’re doing absolutely everything you can to prevent people like him being elected, you don’t get to just shrug off responsibility. I know exactly two people who are doing everything they can, and neither of them is me.

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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Isn't that what the US constantly does other countries?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

I would agree with you.

but after years of propaganda saying that Gaza needs to be killed because of a 2006 election. I think that logic needs to be applied to the country making that propaganda. The US voted for it very recently, no excuses.

[–] Jumi@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This orange maniac and his entourage could only get this far because of a good portion of "the people".

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I live in the US. I blame 40% of the people at a minimum, and likely more than that.

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[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You kinda have to, as it is a democracy, at least on paper...

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Death from the sky wherever we judge it to be right. It’s some Death Star shit.

[–] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

What an odd choice... I know you're referring to the USS Maine and invasion of Cuba, but that was not the start.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America is the model the Nazis looked up to.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I've heard that before too but if you are going to try and convince anyone an actual source will help.

I was so surprised when California Protester Shootings happened and everybody acted surprised.

I had always just assumed that the US is a terrorist state and these things happen regularly. It surprised me a lot when people acted all shocked about it.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those neat little slider things that do a great job of showing before and after typically work better when the images are aligned.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also, having the handle on the middle of the picture instead of underneath is awful on mobile where you can't see anything because of your own finger.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Grab it with your finger and then move your finger down, you can then swipe left and right without blocking it

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

There's a region around the handle where you can grab it to slide left-right but also be scrolling the page up and down, defeating the attempt to move the finger out of the way.

The first time I tried it I kept hitting that region, but I see now that with a bit more precision you can avoid the up-down segment.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I think they lost funding from USAID, so I don't know what it is now.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought we needed to use nukes to penetrate their nuclear sites. Either that was a lie or these attacks did not do what Trump is saying it did.

[–] Pringles@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The US used 14 of their largest bunker busters (GBU-57) at the Fordow facility. That's as close as you can get to nuclear without actual nukes. Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/22/how-effective-was-the-us-attack-on-irans-nuclear-sites-a-visual-guide

[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Bunker busters only have about 2300kg of payload, the rest of the weight is the penetrator body.

The bombs are rated at destroying a 20m radius.

There is some evidence that these penetrators can be guided away from targets by clever architecture. (A reinforced diamond cross-swcrioned concrete beam for instance can guide the penetrator away from its target)

Long story short we don't know if these did anything.

Here is the presentation that talks about it https://youtu.be/TriASB-F5UY

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 18 points 1 week ago

I read they didn't knew if it's going to work or not. They still don't know if it worked. Trump says it worked because he's Trump.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

~~The landslides at Fordow look extensive. The whole mountain must have shaken.~~

Edit: Maybe what I'm seeing is just shadows rather than new debris at the bottoms of some slopes.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I thought I could see piles of debris at the bottoms of some slopes in the after pictures which weren't there in the before pictures, but now that I'm looking at them again, I'm no longer sure that what I'm seeing isn't just a difference in the shadows. (Presumably the pictures were taken at different times of the day.) I'm going to edit my original statement.

[–] IceFoxX@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong. I just didn't recognize anything that looked like it. However, I wasn't really awake then either.

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