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Ukraine's digital minister has reported concerns about the country's overreliance on Elon Musk's Starlink satellite internet system amid the war with Russia, The New York Times reports.

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[-] Dankry@lemmy.world 148 points 10 months ago

They’re right to be concerned. There is simply no reason whatsoever to trust Elon Musk. He is an unhinged right wing extremist agitator.

[-] Cynicivity@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

I read that as unhinged right wing extremist alligator, and was wondering what you know that we do not lol

[-] treefrog@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Something involving LSD and reptilian aliens

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Who will apparently go to bat for anyone that strokes his ego a little bit.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

Similar to Tesla, his bullshit has the potential to cost lives. Only now on a much greater scale. Gdi.

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 76 points 10 months ago

They should be concerned. He has the mentality of a 5 year old and could just decide to cut off their infrastructure on a whim.

[-] StudioLE@programming.dev 22 points 10 months ago

Thankfully he seems to be distracted fucking around with Twitter instead

[-] yip-bonk@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago
[-] kayos@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Or keep feeding the data to Putin.

[-] mlc894@lemm.ee 58 points 10 months ago
[-] Prior_Industry@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago
[-] ItsMeSpez@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago

Starlink satellites make up the majority of satellites orbiting Earth

This is so wild to me.

[-] hglman@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

That's just how impactful reusability is. Buying a tank of gas vs a new car.

[-] tagliatelle@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Reusability has nothing to do with it. Hardly any of the rockets have been reusable (in terms of saving significant money on launches). It's just that spacex is dumping enormous amounts of satellites in LEO. It's going to become a huge problem when other companies/countries does the same.

[-] hglman@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Its only possible bc a launch is cheap enough for them to do it. Cost of of placing them in orbit is the whole reason there is a problem.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

ULA I believe said reuse would be profitable for them after 12 launches. For SpaceX, it's likely lower since they're built more from the ground up for reusability. But they're up to reflying 20 times, so it'll be even more profitable for them.

Also, starlink latches have been on older boosters, pushing the max reuses. So they benefit much more from reusability than the average falcon 9 customer.

[-] Hyggyldy@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Breaking news: Starlink to be renamed to X.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Can't imagine why, he seems like such a stable genius...

[-] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 16 points 10 months ago

Relying on Musk is a deal with the devil. I get Ukrainians desperation though, obviously.

[-] flipht@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

The way you know that Elon is a chaos agent: now that this is reported, he will not feel the need or desire to assure them of his good intentions; he'll say some crazy, bombastic shit and then do something unhinged and blame the Ukrainians somehow.

[-] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I'm not saying this is happening, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we found out that Musk was leaking any and all traffic from Starlink, including Ukraine military comms, in the name of """free speech""".

[-] ashley@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

That not really possible though. In the same way your isp can’t see what YouTube video you’re watching, encryption stops musk from seeing what the military sends to each other. Unless of course the Ukrainian military doesn’t to the whole security thing, which is doubtful.

[-] girltwink@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

DNS can be used to leak some information, but DNS over HTTPS is maturing, and hopefully Ukraine is using something like PGP or the signal protocol.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I hate musk as much as every self respecting person, but this isn't possible. These systems are designed to run over the Internet, and thus heavily encrypted.

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[-] TIEPilot@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Never put all your eggs in one basket...

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[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago

Even if he wasn't a fragile narcissist, having one point of failure would be bad.

[-] jaschen@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Elon is when Ironman decided to be evil instead.

[-] spiderman@ani.social 10 points 10 months ago
[-] jaschen@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Mostly stupid

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[-] BrrooklynMan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

yeah, I can understand.

like, if this were, say, 1942 and I wanted to take aspirin for my headache, I’d try to find another manufacturer than Bayer.

I still do, for that matter.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

They're right to. He might start cutting service off to those who express the rights over their own body.

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[-] Ahmed@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Wait till he enables a rate limit on that internet.

[-] trackcharlie@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 10 months ago

All monopolies are bad but I do not see a way for other private companies to break into this industry to compete with spacex. I also don't think I want them too, we've too many satellites just waiting for china or russia to fuck something up as it is. Can't wait for kessler syndrome to permanently lock us onto an overheating planet.

[-] yip-bonk@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

I am also concerned. About that.

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