this post was submitted on 11 Jun 2025

467 points (99.2% liked)

News

37375 readers

1900 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil

Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.

2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.

Obvious biased sources will be removed at the mods’ discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted separately but not to the post body. Sources may be checked for reliability using Wikipedia, MBFC, AdFontes, GroundNews, etc.

3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.

Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.

4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source. Clickbait titles may be removed.

Posts which titles don’t match the source may be removed. If the site changed their headline, we may ask you to update the post title. Clickbait titles use hyperbolic language and do not accurately describe the article content. When necessary, post titles may be edited, clearly marked with [brackets], but may never be used to editorialize or comment on the content.

5. Only recent news is allowed.

Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.

6. All posts must be news articles.

No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials, videos, blogs, press releases, or celebrity gossip will be allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis. Mods may use discretion to pre-approve videos or press releases from highly credible sources that provide unique, newsworthy content not available or possible in another format.

7. No duplicate posts.

If an article has already been posted, it will be removed. Different articles reporting on the same subject are permitted. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.

8. Misinformation is prohibited.

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

9. No link shorteners or news aggregators.

All posts must link to original article sources. You may include archival links in the post description. News aggregators such as Yahoo, Google, Hacker News, etc. should be avoided in favor of the original source link. Newswire services such as AP, Reuters, or AFP, are frequently republished and may be shared from other credible sources.

10. Don't copy entire article in your post body

For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

JonsJava@lemmy.world

gedaliyah@lemmy.world

little_cow@lemmy.world

467

CDC workers walk out, join former employees in protest calling on RFK Jr. to resign (www.axios.com)

submitted 10 months ago by gedaliyah@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

30 comments fedilink hide all child comments

Current and former employees of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are calling on Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to resign, warning that job cuts and proposed funding reductions will hurt the agency's ability to protect the public from future health outbreaks.

top 30 comments

sorted by: hot top controversial new old

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 142 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This is what needs to be happening everywhere. Definitely something that should be applauded. Is anyone taking up a collection to help fund and cover these people who are taking actual risks right now?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Precisely. Is there anything like the Minnesota Freedom Fund for protestors in LA, for example? The Minnesota Freedom Fund was indispensable during the George Floyd protests in helping release people on bail that would have otherwise been stuck in jail awaiting trial and could not afford to get bailed out.

There needs to be donations to all kinds of groups at the moment to support those who are risking it all and taking direct action, whether they are protestors in the streets or protestors in the government risking their jobs or walking out of their jobs.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Most federal workers are union members, they should have a Strike Fund for exactly this

[+] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com -36 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Peaceful protests will not work at all, even if properly funded. And non peaceful protests will probably things worse. Full rebellion will just break things not fix them.

Only the democrats winning again and really fixing up things will work.

But during the Biden administration, the democrats with both chambers of congress and the presidency failed to adequately fix most damage from the first Trump administration.

It’s hard to adequately express how fucked things are. There are no solutions that liberals will accept

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Do you have any evidence of this? If so you should write your own article. Literally an someone that thought the same as you looked into things and found otherwise. The article was just posted for it. look forward to seeing your research and reasoning on the subject.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I finally saw your link in the text, it did not show up in the response very clearly , and only saw it when I viewed here again.

I don’t think that article is relevant to my opinion which is that no protest whether peaceful or violent can undo the policy changes.

But think some protests can help rescue people from being kidnapped, but that is not a change undoing the sabotage of vital institutions.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had a bit of a brain fart and hit wrong button posting before I had fully written. That's on me not on you.

And yes protesting isn't going to change policy directly. Only new policy will change policy. But protests often leads to new policy.

They're going to look for every reason to discount and disregard protests however. Specifically highlighting any small instances of violence. And specifically because it can change policy eventually.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 10 months ago

But protests often leads to new policy.

If the leadership is either democratically elected or authoritarian. Here, it is neither, but instead a mishmash of things that do not respond much to protests of any type . At most protests will lead to superficial changes

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Evidence of protests not working ?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Specifically the peaceful ones. You said they don't work that it requires violence.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

The violent ones will only reduce people in threat of round ups to concentration camps, those are vital to have and I think more us needed.

The topic here was undoing sabotage to critical resources and other changes like that.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I believe that user is talking about this post (link to article). They are requesting some evidence or research that supports the contrary claim you are making.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

Yea, I saw that and responded

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What happened in the last six months that makes you think Democrats will do shit if they get power back? Or even the last decade?

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree, which is why I think the one working solution has critical issues and will not work.

The Democratic Party would have to be reformed from the ground up, which requires things and behaviors which are not possible in the USA right now

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Then let me come from a different angle: we don't need Democrats. Not as a group, anyway. I'm fine with individual members, like AOC, but the party as a whole hasn't been on our side. That won't change.

Instead, we should be looking to build solidarity with unions and community. If Democrats exist at all at that point, they'll be forced to deal with a very different political reality.

Edit: fixed some wording.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with you on your points except I do not see how it works. Americans lost the ability to form new parties or organizations at the local level . It will be a long hard road to learn it again. And I’m sure they will.. eventually decades from now

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The current situation will tend to sweep away a lot of institutions. The Republican Party almost certainly won't survive Trump, and there's a chance Democrats won't either. Even if they do, it's not like they could hold on to being a singularly dominant party forever. Not when there are so many people voting for them only to make sure Republicans don't take power.

They'll have to adapt to that situation or perish. New political parties can spring up quickly. We're not used to that in the US, but it's happened here before, and happens around the world all the time.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I don’t think this will happen soon in the USA.

This is because the USA is a complex web of non democratic institutions posing as the real deal, and most people seem fine with that.

Secondly, Americans as a group do not know how to recognize or understand when there is massive cheating by political parties, and seem incapable of applying standard checks or common sense. Whoever wins at the state or federal levels are incapable of changing the systems . Some states are actually real democracies but this is lost on the majority of people. As a group and culture this is set in stone and cannot change but slowly.

Thirdly, Americans went through two generations of mass migrations and job changes, local politics and grassroots are broken because of this. And will take years to recover. Political parties must be done at the local level.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sure they will, but everybody has to do it. If the economy ground to a halt, people couldn't go to the grocery store, couldn't fly, no rail or goods moving across the country. You better believe it would work. Its the most nonviolent way to end this craziness. But it requires coordination.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

People absolutely can be that dysfunctional on a large scale. There is no current coordination from a central point or collective of like minded people. And there is no guarantee such will develop. There are many countries this is true

[–] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This reads just like a domestic abuse victim defending their abuser.

The democrats aren’t going to fix this and have no intention of making anything better for you and me. Giving them “just one more chance” isn’t the answer.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I’m saying a functional Democratic Party is the only solution, it does not exist. No amount of violence or peaceful intentions will change that

[–] eddanja@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is America great yet? Asking for a friend.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're working on it.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Adding more fuel to the dumpster fire isn't really working on it

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I understand it's easier said than done but I hope many noble bureaucrats hang onto their positions for as long as possible and do whatever they can to maliciously resist. Anyone who leaves will be replaced with someone far worse, sadly.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

I suspect they won't be replaced and the systems they supported will just rot.

[–] LogicalFallacy@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Editor's note: This article has been updated with comment from HHS spokesperson Andrew Nixon.

Axios should know better than to publish propaganda

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago