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[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

idk why you have that feeling, but maybe it helps to remember all this info was available too, but it took longer to get it. for example, you got the news only via radio, tv and newspaper and had to keep track of time to watch it or go buy a newspaper with news from yesterday. you could get media from the library or shops, like record stores etc.. you could buy maps in certain places and there were usually public maps in towns. to message someone you had multiple options, for example telegraph them. many homes had compact encyclopedia describing most known things in short. if your home didn't have this, you could ask neighbours or check with schools or libraries.

maybe that feeling is projected impatience. maybe it's frustration with how slow and complicated things were.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I think I just remembered one of my fears that I always have: The idea of censorship

With the internet, I can find foreign journalist's publications to cross-check facts.

Before the internet, I don't think foreign press critical of your country's government, especially if it's an authoritarian country, would've been permitted.

Sure there are website censorships too in the modern era. But I think getting a VPN is far easier than smuggling foreign books and newspapers, and word-of-mouth news is just a long telephone game.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

It was much the opposite! Yeah, we only had 3 or 4 news sources on TV, but they mostly said the same things. Being caught bullshitting, or having even a little bias, was unthinkable as trust was the only selling point as to what station you watched.

As to criticizing the government, catching politicians bullshitting was the national sport for journalists.

Bloom County was a great comic that covered American culture and politics from 1980-1989. You won't get many of the references, but it's a perfect snapshot of the 80s.

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Before the internet, I don’t think foreign press critical of your country’s government, especially if it’s an authoritarian country, would’ve been permitted.

You'd find this on Shortwave radio. Without going into the science of it, with a Shortwave radio, you could hear news reports from the other side of the planet. I could easily regularly turn in the BBC when I was on the other side of the Atlantic.

But I think getting a VPN is far easier than smuggling foreign books and newspapers, and word-of-mouth news is just a long telephone game.

The danger on this front is today's surveillance society. If you had managed to smuggle in books or newspapers into your home, the only way they would have been found is if law enforcement would have entered your home and searched it enough. Realistically that would be a lot of effort to try to do that on a society. Its possible, certainly, but very difficult. Today, even with your VPN, a zero-day exploit or DNS hijack could let them watch in real-time everything you're doing without even tipping you off.

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[–] eezeebee@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

What is this weird feeling that I’m feeling?

Appreciation, maybe? There were books before the internet, but I think it's no contest that the internet is the best resource for information that has ever existed. Pre-internet people didn't have FOMO because they didn't know what was coming.

FWIW I don't think it's weird at all to feel that way. I grew up when the internet became accessible to everyone, and I would not want to go back to before then despite the new problems it poses.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago

I'm around five to ten years older than you and get the same feeling sometimes. Not so much from TV shows or movies, but also from reading or watching real-life stories from that time. Like, when reading documents written pre-Internet that reference then-current events, how and how much did they know about those events? All just TV and newspapers? Nowadays I can easily find out what happened back then, but that was obviously not so much so at the time.

I do not remember a time without the Internet at all, but I do remember very well a time before mobile Internet, and I remember that around the time you were born, most people watched TV almost every day. I hardly ever watch TV nowadays, there is so much more entertainment online (e.g. YouTube).

As for looking up information, in the mid-to-late 2000s it was really mostly Wikipedia that built up the Internet as a useful resource for doing that. Obviously nowadays nearly all information that can be found there can be found on numerous other websites too; the Internet has now been built up, so Wikipedia is arguably a much less important website now than back then...

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

You're recognizing the problems of today. Someone in the 1930's Depression would feel something similar watching a movie set in the Jazz Age.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

are you living the present? isn't now peak weird?

[–] mspencer712@programming.dev 1 points 6 days ago

As a BBS era kid, I know you’re not trying to simulate the whole thing right now in the comments section. I’d say: you would have done fine, in any era. People talk, they share methods, and you would’ve picked up whatever you needed.

I think it’s just a common sort of nightmare, worrying about being unprepared, dealing with the consequences of lack of preparation.

I recommend the first few minutes of Jason Scott’s The BBS Documentary, for an overview of how people communicated in the pre-internet days. Especially if you imagine yourself a telegraph operator chatting with neighboring stations in the 19th century or something.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

i lived my early childhood at 90s and i kind of have same. Though i also have it about 80s or almost any decade before this current shitshow.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Have you ever been anywhere without an always-on internet connection? You sound like you have a serious addiction.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 days ago

me, not recently (after ~2010) for more than a small number of days; the most likely place where that happens nowadays is in the open sea, e.g. on cruise ships

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

I think that would be most people these days.

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