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I don't care about the rating on other people's content. On my own I only care so far as to use it as a guideline for whether I actually was interesting.
On reddit I was a trolling karma whore, but here? Here I'm much more about engaging with people and getting 3 upvotes tells me that I gave the community something meaningful.
When in comes to my own posts and comments, my trust in vague negative reactions is long gone.
Some things that made me more suspicious of Lemmy users:
For me, taking online feedback less seriously was a big part of growing up.
No, not at all. When you get a ton of downvotes but zero responses, assuming you didn’t just post literal nonsense, I consider it proof I’m correct and it’s just a truth people don’t like. When you’re wrong people will downvote you and tell you why, which should be a learning experience that a person should be humble enough to accept but just downvotes or responses only attacking you not you points is pure validation you’re speaking an uncomfortable truth
And when someone spins up 3 entire instances to create accounts to downvote you, you know you're right.
Yes. Downvotes allow a well educated community to bury misinformation
Or an uneducated community to bury real information 😆
We shouldn't allow uneducated people to participate in our communities
I disagree, downvotes come free but replies are expensive, when downvotes are disabled you instead have replies that debunk you
You only encourage dogpiling when downvotes are available
Yes and no. The same comment on different communities can have vastly different results, so I think it's too easy to just "justify" why the ratios you don't agree with are there, while the ones you do are obviously "fair"
I check my downvotes every so often to see if I've made an ass of myself.
--Not safe for Grammar--
Thankfully, people often explain they're downvotes here, so I tend to learn something.
If I haven't internalized whatever it is, I'll find that their still downvoting me, so I get another chance to improve there opinion of me.
Edit: Good point. Warning added.
I downvoted because of the thing
Downvoting for "they're, there, their" gore, mark it NSFL next time sheesh
^/s^
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But actually though
Good point. I've invented a new tag - Not Safe for Grammar.
I'm onto you're plan
When I see someone downvoted for no good reason, I tend to support them; upvotes don't sway me at all. My own stuff I see votes as a guide to how well I fit a community (except in one controversial group which attracts down votes – there voters are meaningless
i hate useless circlejerk nonsense getting updooted to the ceiling, and good but disagreeable information being downvoted into the earth.
Usually no, unless I've left a reply disagreeing then someone else comes along and downvotes them, makes me look like an ass who downvotes anyone I disagree with. I also check my own comments to see if people agree with me but I'll keep the comment up either way, if I do change my mind I'd rather leave a new comment or add stuff in an edit.
It's not too difficult to bot votes on lemmy so they're even more pointless than they are on reddit.
Yes and I'm trying to stop it from happening.
I pretty much always win with votes. If I get upvotes, I think someone appreciated it. If someone downvotes, I think they’re a hater.
I won’t lie though; my adhd ass checks way too often in a desperate search for dopamine.
I like to say it doesn't change my view, but it probably does more than I realize. Everyone likes to think they're immune to stuff like that, but we really aren't.
wow, first time i see gif as profile pic :D yeah i disabled like 2 days ago votes and now i have actually no idea what comment on this post can have down or up votes and truly it feels nice, I recommend it to everybody
I prefer to see both numbers rather than the sum. The variance sort of gives a 'controversial' score. Can't get that with PieFed yet, but I prefer the deduplication of PieFed over the split scores on Voyager.
is piefed alternative to lemmy?
It's much the same. Lemmy and PieFed talk to each other no worries.
It does all the same things but has some additional features as well. The killer feature for me is merging duplicate posts so you only see them once but with all the comments from the different groups stacked underneath.
That is killer.
Down votes are useful for estimating the exactly how badly damaged the sense of humour in the community is.
I dont think it changes my pov, but it def does for other people on a large scale
you could say the same message in different parts of the same thread, and by chance one will accumulate more downvotes and one will accumulate more upvotes
for example: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39444493/18993947 and https://sh.itjust.works/post/39444493/18993522 say the same thing, but one has 42 updates and 8 downvotes and one has 120 downvotes to 23 upvotes
people need to stop looking at these numbers
Yes, sometimes I say some stupid shit and other people correct me. Sometimes it's the reverse. We all keep each other accountable.
I also like that, but I'm not as fond of when the correction is immediately aggressive, dismissive or insulting.
Like when people start ascribing attributes to my personality without knowing me or make assumptions about why I said it. I'd rather have people asking me to elaborate than jumping to conclusions.
Yes. I've learned that (it helps when I) resond with "I" statements, for that kind of interaction.
"I don't see it that way." works as well as "You are wrong.", but the "I" version implies fewer assumptions about what the other person is trying to communicate.
Edit: I have had good luck with adjusting my approach, this way. (To add a quick I statement, haha.)
I pay almost no attention to the scores on other people's posts, but admittedly, I do sometimes feel disheartened when I see what I consider an extremist view getting heavily upvoted. As for downvotes, I have those hidden, so in that sense, they’re a non-factor for me. But you're asking whether I care. Of course I care and anyone claiming otherwise is lying. We're social animals - we care what others think of us. That’s why I hid the downvotes in the first place: so they wouldn’t affect me. Mean comments are enough to deal with; I don’t need to hear the audience booing too.
My perhaps unpopular opinion is that while the voting system itself should remain, the scores should be hidden for everyone - and I mean both upvotes and downvotes. Downvotes don’t mean you’re wrong, and upvotes don’t mean you’re right. They’re just indicators of how popular your opinion is with the audience. That dynamic encourages people to self-censor unpopular views and, conversely, to post meaningless one-liners just for the applause.
The intention behind most downvotes is
Usually, no. Not for myself or others. Too many people vote emotionally for them to be useful feedback in most situations.
They also aren't useful in short time frames on lemmy. I've lost track of how many people get whiny about votes, but they just didn't wait for things to balance out. It's lemmy, shit takes hours to spread and get seen, especially since not everyone sorts by new. Chill the fuck out.
But sometimes, they can be a warning sign, or an indicator of a successful comment/post. And other times, they can help realize you posted or commented in the wrong place.
Only when I'm checking to see what I said before someone replied. Otherwise, I never check.
I'd be lying if I said I didn't care.
Its human nature, its encoded in our dna, in the past, social ostrization means death, so that feeling of "not wanting to get socially ostricized" persisted to modern day.
Btw you can actually see who downvoted you with https://lemvotes.org/, to see if they are actually real users or just bots/trolls.
I usually just assume any amount of downvotes between 1-5 to be bots/trolls. For upvotes, not getting upvotes doesn't matter as long as I don't get downvoted. I try to ignore votes, but like, my monkey brain just can't stop being curious about the score. 🤷♂️
There's also that fear of weirdos start trying to dox you if they didn't like something you said. Like "I dislike Linux" for example (not my actual opinion, but like imagine if someone said that, they'd get fucking downvoted to hell and stalked around the fediverse)
As for other user's scores: Seeing upvotes/downvotes on other user's posts/comments does not really change my agreement/disagreement of their statements
Sometimes when I'm not doing too great and see loads of shit during my daily doomscrolling, I can get very synical, harsh and bold. When I get several downvotes, it can be a sign I'm in this negative depressing mood and I need to light up and be more open to others. It usually takes a while as first I fee like explaining myself making things worse, but in the end it let's me think "hey dude, stop, take some distance. You're not like this and your behavior is pulling you further down. Do something fun instead, stay away from comment sections and put away your phone completely and meet some friends or something".
It's a struggle sometimes.
Upvotes always help with the short endorphins boost, even though I don't want to admit it. I got rid of all social media except YouTube and Lemmy. Yes, I'm I search of approval, again, not what I'm proud of. Because I want to get rid of this addiction and doomscrolling.
No
Usually whenever I see a ton of downvotes its people doing the exact thing and I keep seeing it. Person makes strawman (ex: I say "I like socialism" and person responds "uh ok tankie, what about the holdomor"). I respond like a dumbass (I really should stop responding to low effort bad faith actors). They "own" me because world will mass downvote anyone who says uncomfortable truth and mass upvotes popular lies (damn this place really is like Reddit). Then I become the uneducated person who makes assumptions because I made the stupid mistake of responding. Yes I expert to be mass downvoted on this because the entire system is meant to incentive opinions you personally agree with in mass hoards of floads not opinions of any inherent value.
Yes. But only if people voted in the right way. You're not supposed to vote it you agree or disagree with something. That's not how this is supposed to work.
You're supposed to vote if the context fits the sub or topic.