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None of these (sub.wetshaving.social)

submitted 3 weeks ago by weird@sub.wetshaving.social to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[+] Gronk@aussie.zone 108 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 80 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's basically gambling on the nerdiness of the question's writer. Do they think HTML is a programming language? Do they know that people think it's a programming language and trying to trap them? Do they know it's not a programming language but also know most people would think it is one and so are using the common, loose definition of a programming language in order not to trap people?

My brain would melt

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mine wouldn't.

It is a quiz, they know what they are talking about if they put the question in. And if they don't, you get to call out the quiz master for being wrong.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

But I’d rather have the million dollars than the satisfaction of calling out the show for being wrong.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would challenge the question right there and demand an expert counsel to explain why HyperTextMarkupLanguage is classified as a programming language when it's not even Turing complete. It's a markup language. Security would have to drag me, I'd die on the specificity hill.

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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

If the question writer was aware, they would have formulated the question differently. It's just not clear-cut whether HTML is a programming language or not, so you wouldn't be quizzing their knowledge, but rather just whether they hold the same opinion as you. Or whether they meta-gamed correctly. Neither of which make for a fun show...

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would loudly go on the record for my reasoning that Hypertext Markup Language is not Turing Complete, and therefore fails to be a programming language by the only academic and theoretical definition that matters.

They already are going to award me "lawyer up" money, so I'll come after them for damages later if B is the "right' answer.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

wrong again! CSS is turing complete, and HTML can include inline CSS, so you can implement a Turing machine in HTML only (without external .js files)

[–] nef@slrpnk.net 22 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

It can also include inline JS. HTML alone cannot be turing complete, but HTML+CSS is.

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[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t worry. They interview you before these shows. If you’re at all tech savvy then they would never ask you this question. They want you to be stumped by the question for legitimate reasons, not to loudly protest that you’ve been cheated by a bad question.

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[–] Guidy@lemmy.world 80 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s right there in the name: it’s a markup language. Hyper Text Markup Language. HTML.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 45 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How To Meet Ladies.

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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a difference between “markup language” and “programming language”.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That's the point isn't it? Or did you mean that with a question mark attached?
The only correct answer is D, and it got the least votes. 😋

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That's the etymological fallacy. The name itself doesn't determine the meaning. According to that logic, python isn't a programming language either but a snake

[–] vrek@programming.dev 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Fun fact python was named after Monty python, not the snake.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

What was Monty Python named after?

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I think it got inspired by our lord and savior Brian

[–] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 3 weeks ago

his parents i think

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[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If it walks like a snake and quacks like a snake...

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The name itself doesn't determine the meaning.

The name in this case is defined by the meaning if you will. Programming languages are used to write programs. A HTML file is much closer to a PDF than to what can be considered a program.

Also fun fact python is named after the comedy group Monty Python rather than the snake.

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Actually, PDF is a turing complete programming language.

PDF is a simplification and wrapper around the computer language PostScript - a PostScript or PDF doc literally runs on the printer or computer and outputs the rasterisation of the thing you want to print.

PostScript is language based around a stack. You can define functions (which may be fully recursive) that run on the stack.

Here's a small example:

/ANGLE {
   newpath
   100 0 moveto
   0 0 lineto
   100 50 lineto
   stroke
} def

10 setlinewidth
0 setlinejoin
100 200 translate
ANGLE

1 setlinejoin
0 70 translate
ANGLE

2 setlinejoin
0 70 translate
ANGLE

As such, PDF that's actually similar to Python, and HTML is closer to something like a JSON or XML document.

Note however that HTML can contain Javscript or WASM programs, but these are embedded rather than features of HTML.

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 21 points 3 weeks ago

Consider me outjerked 🎩🤏

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

HTML5 + CSS3 seems to be Turing complete too: https://lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/breaking-news-htmlcss-is-turing-complete/

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[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Ok, but hear me out. Have you seen most Python code?

[–] LiamMayfair@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

snake_case_ftw

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[–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

I fucking hate these kinds of questions. D is the CORRECT answer because TECHNICALLY html is a markup language and not a programming language but the average person irl will just call you a dipshit for trying to explain that. If this were a question on a shitty academic exam, its going to be a 50/50 toss up on which will get counted as correct because the Autograder Bot Knows All(TM) but you better not fucking use AI to get your low effort AI-generated homework done quicker because fuck you.

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 8 points 3 weeks ago

Bro if someone called me a dipshit for a technicality in a contest where money is at stake? They are a dipshit. Being serious about the questions is the point.

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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

What really has my brain in a knot is: Does option "D: None of these" include or exclude option D?

This statement is false.

[–] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

That’s why it should be “none of the above”. And if there’s a “all of the above”, it must come right before the “none of the above”.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 30 points 3 weeks ago

They're not above. One of them is to the left.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ackshually it's a markup language not a programming language Picks D and loses $1 million

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[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That question just gave me anxiety. That is exactly the type of question I would get. Technically it's not but does the people who wrote that think that? Is it a trap question or a smart question? Omg I gotta not think about this anymore...

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[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 13 points 3 weeks ago

Well what the fuck is a machine language?

Is is data transmitted between parties (machines) to convey information? HTML fits this definition.

Do they mean machine code? Because some call machine code "machine language".

Either way the answer is D.

[–] moonlight6205@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Can someone clarify what the answer should be and what was the answer on the show?

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is a running joke that some people falsely consider HTML a programming language which it is not. So it's D. I didn't watch the show but I assume that's it and the joke is that the audience's majority took alien language

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Interestingly C and D are both programming languages. That is, there is a programming languages called C and another, D.

I'll see myself out...

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[–] palmtrees2309@lemm.ee 7 points 3 weeks ago

Not expected Amitabh Bacchan and Indian who wants to be a Millonaire or Kaun bane ga Crorepati. Lemmy has got me suprised. Also HTML is markup not a programming language.

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