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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And here I thought drones were radio controlled...

They were, now they aren't.

[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can interfere wirh radio waves, but not a fiberoptic line

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My scissor begs to differ.

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

And how long are you going to survive in the no man's land, operating your scissors?

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago

I think I could manage a good few seconds.

[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Each cable can generate 80kg of fertilizer

Win-win

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago

I believe the implication is that when the Drone kills a soldier their body will fertilize the ground.

Presumably a corpse.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Man, that's gotta be hell on any wildlife left living in the areas in which it's used. (I mean, I get the necessity, but dang)

Tillers too when this war ends (with Russia's defeat) and it's time to plant crops.

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

Just wait until people realise the steepness of the co2 emissions reduction curve has become so extreme that it is impossible to avoid catastrophic climate change without a global collapse of capitalism that in turn can only lead to kinetic world war. Which, again in turn, is the most carbon intensive activity known to human-kind, making this sort of environmental degradation a picture of the good old days.

It is a pity that most people didn't pay attention when IPCC's working group three (the group responsible for coming up with a plan to mitigate climate change), was filled with economists beholden to a [neo-]liberal economic and political ideology that 1. set the stage for the current and future governments of right wing extremists. And 2. 'discounted the future at 5%', meaning rather than plan to mitigate climate change they said: "we will invest money now in exploiting fossil fuels, which will return a profit at 5% per year. Then we will take these compounded 5%'s and invest that in co2 removal technology". (Unfortunately they missed off the: [... co2 removal technology that does not exist outside of a lab and has only been shown to be impossible at scale].)

I don't have the information that says we are now at the point of no return (I bet people like Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping do), but publicly available information shows we have a limited number of years, and are racing in the wrong direction. Apologies maybe I am not having the best morning!

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 15 hours ago

Well I mean the psychopathic and narcissistic rich bastards in charge aren't gonna feel the effects so why should they care?

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

You are devastatingly correct on all points. We are AT BEST a few years from the cliff. If we do avoid the cliff, it will be so extremely painful for every single person on the planet that our societies will crumble. There will be a massive population crash as industrialized agriculture is made largely impossible. The chaos in this situation is impossible to overstate.

Mind you, if we don't avoid the cliff, we still go through that, but worse.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the whole war is really bad for the environment. not just locally. tanks don't run on solar. burning fuel depots, etc..

we need to stop putin and his enablers.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s also a good chance a lot of these areas are smattered with land mines too.

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[–] RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 day ago

Then the crops grow, and they’re all full of microscopic glass fibre. Then the foodstuffs are shipped to the world. Then the foods are eaten and the GF joins the microplastics in our bloodstream.

[–] BendyLemmy@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

So whilst the drones are super-effictive (for now) they pose several serious problems - 1. Fibres can get tangled, maybe even affecting vehicles or other machinery, cars, whatever and 2. If you can view these from the air, you can use an fpv drone to trace them back to the operator (meaning they'll need to change position more frequently and probablyclean up before returning to old positions). 3. That's gonna be a heck of a cleanup operation.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago

None of your points are even remotely close to an actual problem, let alone a serious one lol

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A war always is a "heck of a cleanup". These cables are by far not the worst part of it.

[–] l_isqof@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Us stupid humans will always find a way to kill each other.

The only question is what survives from the planet, not from our species...

Given how thin those are, and how many there are it might be a waste of time to try to follow them.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

They usually carry the spool on the drone so they don’t really get tangled because the feed end is at the source of the movement. It can always let out more slack to continue forward.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A drill and reel could wind up the fiber if the drone has exploded and the cable is loose. If the cable is still attached to the drone, it could send a signal to a device at the end to cut/blow up the fiber attached at the drone's end.

Guessing it's impractical as they're not doing it.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

that works as long as the cable is on perfectly flat surface and not tangled up in any way at all.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah multiply the weight of 1/2 mile of fiber by 20 to 50 tangled strands and try to drag it.

[–] Schneemann@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not even just 1/2 mile. I read an article recently that 15km spools are already in use and 20km spools are actively being tested.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is the tensile strength anywhere close enough to reel it back? I assumed the spool is carried by the drone, not dragged from the source.

It’s a really interesting/terrifying technology. But it’s gonna a be a mess to clean it up.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago

Tensile strenghth is definitely enough. Ive used fiber to tow vehicles before in a pinch. A single strand takes a surprisingly higher amount of force to break than one would expect. Good luck pulling a window pane in two..

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It looks like spiderwebs which immediately made me think of No Doubt.

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Leave a message and I’ll call you back

I gotta screen my phone calls

[–] Steve@startrek.website 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What? Why is there so much fiber optic cable?

[–] Fandangalo@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (11 children)

From Internet (not op):

Fiber-optic first-person-view drones areΒ jam-proof. Sending and receiving signals along millimeters-thick but miles-long optical fibers, these FPV drones are impervious to the radio interference that can ground wireless FPV drones. That doesn't mean it's impossible to defeat a fiber-optic drone.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

So that's where all of the USA's fiber rollouts ended up

[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just need sissors and a pogo stick to bring one down.

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[–] LonstedBrowryBased@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago

The drones are fly-by-wire

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