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It's always talked about in the media as if everyone cares, but I don't think I've ever heard a normal person complain.

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[โ€“] monovergent@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm more or less forced to, how I wish I could pay it just like another bill rather than some complicated guess-and-file game.

I also want the government to give me an itemized list, to a reasonable extent, of where my taxes are going. As a thought exercise, I added "taxation theft" to my yearly budget, which I currently calculate as over a third of my taxes. That's my best estimate of the taxes I'm paying to bomb innocent civilians halfway across the globe, among other uses I would not approve of.

I wish I lived in a country that takes better care of its taxpayers so I wouldn't have to care about the tax I pay.

[โ€“] werty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-and-families/your-tax-return/your-notice-of-assessment/tax-receipt#ato-Taxreceiptrecipients

Australia does an itemized list. It's not very detailed but I appreciate it. The biggest expenses are aged care and health IIRC. Meanwhile everyone is demonizing the unemployed who get a pittance.

[โ€“] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 5 days ago

A little, but not too much.

Flat taxes annoy me more than proportional taxes.

[โ€“] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

i never did really care about income and property taxes (including vehicle related taxes), even though they can be a pain in the *ss. i believe they're a fair share of contribution to society, at least in the capitalist context that we live in. but it bothers me product taxes, especially those levied upon non-processed or low-processed food, medicine, basic hygiene and cleaning, basic clothing and products not produced in your country when said country doesn't have an industrial policy to encourage the production of these items internally.

[โ€“] wolf@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I care how much taxes I pay for several reasons (Germany):

  • Rich people are taxed less than working people
  • Given that we have one of the highest tax rates in the world, a big part of my taxes go into corruption, incompetence or the pensions of civil servants (pensions for civil servants are way higher than for normal people, especially for some pencil pushing)
  • It gets even more fun, when I think about how many big companies are getting subsidized by my taxes with billions (speaking about companies which are making billions for their stake holders)
  • In our system, costs for health care system and workers pensions are also mandatory deducted from my income (they don't call it tax)... Given, what an average worker pays, we get not enough out of it, neither from health care nor when thinking about the pensions
  • A final tax, which is not called tax, is for public TV/state propaganda. There were more scandals about that money recently than anything else: The higher ups in that system earn more money than the president of Germany (no kidding), people get special pensions for the rest of their life which are obscenely high (after working like a few months, again, no kidding)

Don't get me wrong: I would happily pay taxes if the biggest parts would go towards services, infrastructure, public transport, health care, people in need and smart/strategic investments of the economy.

As it is right now, my taxes are siphoned into the pockets of the so called elite instead , so I care.

If you don't care about paying taxes, you are either mostly happy about were the money goes or have too much money to care.

I don't care because no tax cuts in my country will ever come out of the "hurting people" bin, only out of the "attempt to help" bin.

[โ€“] SuluBeddu@feddit.it 2 points 4 days ago

The bulk of my salary depends on the company I work in and my boss' decisions

I have a much higher ability and chance to change that, compared to changing the tax system.

Taxes are just a fraction of my salary, and they supposedly also cover for my future pension. Meanwhile, most of my taxes pays for state jobs for essential services, such as schools and healthcare. Others pay for debt interests, for money that was used to invest in the country or pay said services.

Sure, a part of it is bad management and ill intentions, but that's such a small portion of my salary. Depending where you live, you might be paying some vere generous retirement plans, but most of the retirement money goes to old people who would otherwise require help from their family.

So no, I don't really care about my taxes. If I feel I don't have enough money, there are other things I can do than complaining about them

[โ€“] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago

I've not heard anyone ever complain about it other than in media.

Maybe you need to be more upper class to relate.

[โ€“] onTerryO@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

Me? Not really. The people I hear complaining the most are those that:

  1. have no clue where their tax dollars go.
  2. are most likely to make use of government services, and complain the loudest if those services are changed or removed.
  3. think we pay FAR more taxes than every other country (am in Canada).
[โ€“] thisfro@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yes, all the time (not me though). I know a good amount of people who moved to a place with lower taxes because of it.

[โ€“] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (7 children)

In California, yes. Moreso because taxes keep rising but services keep dwindling.

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[โ€“] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Yes. Even with extra withdraws, I always owe. So it's more of an annoyance. Not to mention I don't like how my tax dollars are being used. If the US wasn't such a dumpster fire, I might feel differently.

[โ€“] shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Nope.

They'll take what they choose to take. It's 2025. Social mobility doesn't exist, our votes are meaningless, and economic policies change with the seasons.

I have no agency, so it's not worth the stress.

[โ€“] temporal_spider@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

I absolutely did care when I was a single mom just barely getting by, and the state and federal self-employment taxes took such huge bites out of my income. Often, I couldn't pay them and still eat and pay rent, so I racked up interest charges and penalties.

The self-employment tax system in the USA is royally fucked for people who can hardly support themselves even without it.

[โ€“] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I don't really have control over it, I just take into account that about 40% of my net income is going to funding war and genocide. I wish there was a way to at least select what you were funding

In general, I didn't much. I did occasionally wish the money was not taken because I needed it, but I'm fine with the point of taxes. We all chip in for stuff we all use. No big deal.

I definitely have objected to what the taxes were used for, and definitely cared about tax disparities, but I never minded paying my share.

I have objections to how property taxes are assessed, though I'm okay with the fact of them for the same reason I'm okay with income taxes. In a monetary world, there has to be some degree of shuffling the money around to keep roads usable, in essence.

Even now, when property taxes are a much bigger proportion of my income, the numbers make sense to me based on the tax valuation of the property. I disagree with that valuation, but not so much I would complain about it. I could, in a perfect world, sell for the price they think it's worth, so I'm not storming city hall.

But, I have heard people complain about their tax amounts rather than the fact of them. Particularly here in the US when someone moves to a new tax bracket, it can be a very upsetting thing to realize that your raise isn't going to all go into your pocket.

Nope. Some people do care though. I'm more concerned with the interest rate as it makes a big difference to my mortgage.

[โ€“] borokov@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I'm happy to pays tax cause it means I have enough money to pay tax.

[โ€“] srubhut@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Yes, I hate giving white supremacists money

[โ€“] hefejefe@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I purposefully moved to a state with no sales tax. It is far superior having all my taxes deducted from my paycheck, rather than playing the constant game of โ€œhow much does this purchase actually cost.โ€

I die every time I need to make a purchase out of state on a work trip/vacation.

I've personally never cared too much. It's what it costs to have society. I agree with others where I don't like half of it going to the military, but other than that I view it as a good thing. I'm doing okay, I can afford to help others get by a bit. I also get benefits, I get our local transit, we get roads, I like fire departments, parks, walkways, it's just paying my share so I get to enjoy those things. And if for some reason I wasn't doing okay, I would feel okay using those safety nets too

[โ€“] 0x01@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

My experience is every person in the US who enters the workforce and gets their first paycheck is always surprised. Since here in the us salary is given in pretax dollars, you never get the amount you'd expect for your first one.

Otherwise, some complain scout sales tax in the us for a similar reason, especially going from a state with none to a state with a high rate

[โ€“] Nemo@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

Income tax? No.

Sales tax? Yes.

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