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Not that there's anything wrong with content warnings. But you'd think people who actively celebrate massacres and call for the death of others can handle a children's cartoon lol
Funny stuff. Especially considering how tankies go ballistic with execution fantasies. I have personally seen one tankie fantasize about killing a non-tankie (that they were having discussing with) with an ice pick and generally behave like disgusting degenerates.
Of all the extremists I've had the misfortune of interacting with, from Neo-Nazis to Jihadists to Incels, Tankies are by far the most pathetic in terms of practicing what they preach.
They larp about violence but can't stand the sight of it for even a second, which questions how they'll manage any revolution or advancing their course when merely going outside is a mental challenge for them. Reminds me of that Disco Elysium dialogue about communism, where it sounds brave to say the slogans, but when it comes to reality, you'll have firing lines, animal wagons and genocide.
It's all larp. It's why I think they like liberals and want to be liberal themselves, but feel too embarrassed to admit it.
Yeah, tankies are the definitely the most pathetic and disconnected from reality.
I would even go as far as saying it's mostly online roleplay (bored teenagers, internet demagogue-shitposters and the mentally ill).
And it's a not matter of me talking shit about them and hating (I am Ukrainian so I do actually hate them). They have zero presence in the real world and no one takes them seriously.
Russians treat them as useful idiots, I don't know Chinese (and I've never loved in China), but I will speculate that even Chinese nationalists don't take them seriously.
Yeah, it's sad in a way that no one in geopolitics takes them seriously.
But that's probably a good thing that they're ultimately harmless.
Do you get any hate on lemmy for being ukranian?
Not really, no.
There is definitely an above average amount people spreading russian propaganda considering the modest size (55K MAU).
Lemmy seems like the most viable alternative to US-based social networks. Hopefully it gets larger and outgrows its tankie roots.
I'm not sure if it can outgrow its tankie roots. They're pretty firmly planted
Eventually everyone will defederate the degenerates and all will be well. And there are alternatives to Lemmy, like piefed. Thanks to ActivityPub, you can talk with Lemmy communities easily.
hello from piefed
Congrats!
Yeah I have been told, multiple times, this is my fault, personally, because I am not out shooting redhats. This is coming from people who's comment history betrays they fact that they have never been in a fight, let alone killed someone.
Tankies would shit themselves if they actually had to participate in a real conflict. They're all bark, and no bite.
The "ice pick" is a Trotsky reference, btw. He was assassinated in Mexico by the NKVD secret police with an ice axe and these idiots can't even get that right.
It is about time we nuked France though
I've had enough kisses and baguettes
Idk how they expect to pull off a bloody revolution if MLP has elements that trigger them. This is definitely the first time I’ve seen content warnings for the series.
This seems almost sane to me. I think its a very normal experience when watching stuff from your childhood that Adult You isnt cool with at all. I'm sure we've all had the experience of watching a movie you loved as a kid when you stumble upon the Racism Olympics Scene, e.g. the asian foreign exchange student in Sixteen Candles, or the blackface fish that appears during Under the Sea in the Little Mermaid. As for myself, I can't stand plots where the entire plot revolves about our main character refusing to communicate or self-sabotaging for the entire movie, and it would be nice to get a heads-up about that going in even if thats not "triggering".
I think this is a rare Hexbear W, and I would be happy if this was more normal.
If child-you can handle watching a cartoon horse fall down some stairs, then adult-you can certainly handle it. If not, then something drastically wrong happened along the way.
But the main point is their delight in consuming corporate media. The cartoon is an ad to sell more toys. It's also about how they feel the need to put content warnings for a cartoon, but not for the memes they have celebrating massacres and atrocities, and the constant calls for violence, death and terrorism. You don't see the irony of any of this?
What's your favourite content warning?
"character falls down stairs" or "African witch doctors zebra" are both amazing.
Canada's former prime minister Justin Trudeau fell down the stairs on purpose on TV once: https://youtu.be/lRnwK01n904
"American"
These people will be on Starlight's side during the Cutie Map. Or they'd go say that Starlight wasn't actually practicing real communism.
Idk. I feel mixed about the content warnings. They could be useful for some people, though it's a little bit overboard. There are certainly worse episodes of My Little pony that's for sure. I think of the Buffalo episode in season 1 (actual settler colonialism and then the lesson is just to share the land)
All the depictions of these things are pretty mild in general. Although that doesn't stop the My Little pony Community from making these incredibly detailed stories and worlds.
I see no issue, in fact this is rather progressive and I agree with them, should be way more common
I think many of these are a huge stretch and if you are getting triggered over "childhood bullying" in "My Little Pony Friendship is Magic" that perhaps you need to not be engaging with the internet unsupervised.
At some point we have to let adults experience uncomfortable, negative, and unwanted emotions and experiences in art or otherwise we will infantilize the population.
Not that there’s anything wrong with content warnings. But you’d think people who actively celebrate massacres and call for the death of others can handle a children’s cartoon lol
You are responding to a tankie
I'm aware they're a tankie. So is @procapra@lemm.ee
Long as they follow the rules, they're allowed to comment.
Im a different flavor of communist than the folks you see on hexbear and grad. Not a stan of DPRK or China. Not fond of the later years of the USSR. I don't support modern day Russia in any conflicts it's involved in either.
I've seen your comments on Hexbear. At best, you are neutral on their bigotry as you comment in threads that contain it. At worst, you agree with it.
Here's a challenge: Disavow Stalin on Hexbear and the fact that his authoritarianism is what ultimately killed communism. Unless you are a Stalinist?
I uphold his theoretical contributions. My disagreements are everything after that.
That's nice and vague. What sort of theoretical contributions?
celebrate massacres? Do you mean the war in Ukraine?
Ukraine, as well as the Uyghur genocide in China. As long as it's the right "team" doing the evil, it's totally okay to them.
Most massacres. 7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union's gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. List goes on and all are documented on this community.
7th October was a Hamas attack, Barbara Pit was honest-to-god massacre that involved fascist Croatians affiliated with Nazi Germany, Gulags are Gulags, Holodomor is like calling the American Dustbowl a massacre (Wikipedia doesn't agree on it being one) and the doctors plot can't even be confirmed
Why not talk about Xinjiang or Russian war crimes? Or Assad? Those are way more up to date
That's apologia, you're deflecting and handwaving all of this with whataboutism.
7th of October massacres. The Barbara Pit. Soviet Union’s gulags. The Holodomor. The doctors plot murders. All atrocities. The Holodomor itself was a genocide.
They know their own community well which often comes off as insular, but yeah content warnings for a watch party is a pretty normal thing.