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[–] tauren@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I wish people stopped putting punchlines before the setup.

[–] Goltbrook@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I think in this case it works well enough.

Most comedy works by subverting expectations. And sometimes you can shift the burden of establishing these expectations to the audience by offering an unclear and vague statement, that later is revealed to be the punchline to the joke.

There is a certain risk involved because how well the joke works on an individual basis is a question of how imaginative or unimaginative the audience is (depending on how the joke is constructed).

A joke that relies on lack of imagination basically turns the audience into their own straight man. While the joke that relies on imagination banks on you being the straight man to the flights of fancy of your audience.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 19 points 1 day ago

It's like putting Descartes before the whores.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

It really does decrease the effect of the bit.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When I was much younger I had heard for the first time a swan circling the shore of my lake in the dead of night. It was this eerie swooshing sound, like huge wings, accompanied by the weirdest nasally grunting. This thing circled the entire lake multiple times, but I could see nothing in the dark.

Now, I was probably just high, as I usually was during that period, but I remember taking to social media to ask if anyone else had "heard something weird flying around the lake" the night before. Unfortunately, people thought I was talking about a UFO, and I wound up being ridiculed for it.

It took me years before I had finally witnessed a swan doing the same thing in the light of day, and was able to finally drop my half-baked fear that Nosferaru had been taking to the skies at night in my lake community.

[–] Sidhean@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was talking about a UFO

you thought it was a ufo? lmao

sry sry i feel the fuck out of that. I'm glad you found your answer- so rarely do we!

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pitty he didn't have officer Nicholas Angel to help.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Retrograde@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 day ago

I've been diving away from swans before, those bastards are pure rage.

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Apex predator of the lake

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Just grab its neck? They weight like 10 kgs, no?

[–] weird@sub.wetshaving.social 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Depends on the age. Fully grown ones can weigh a lot more than 10kg. Source

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lenuup@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

Firstly it's a swan. Secondly the swan fucks you.

[–] Sadbutdru@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I've heard their wings can break your arm, so it might not be just as simple as that. Still probably a good first step. But if this happened when he's out swimming where he can't stand, that would be an advantage for the swan.

[–] raoul@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago

I have been put KO by a chicken when I tried to catch it and it hits me with one of its wing. So I can totally seen a swan fucks you up with his wings.

[–] dukepontus@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think that is a myth. Birds have hollow bones me thinks.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

its probably thier beaks that do the most damage.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Hollow doesn't mean weaker, just lighter

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would like my chances.. grab it by the neck, swing it like a hammer at the ground

[–] Yoddel_Hickory@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 day ago

...while swimming?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

you don't want to fight a swan, they're like geese but upscaled. when i was taking photos of them once from a distance, i heard one make a noise like an actual dinosaur. do not fuck with swans, especially if the have their children around

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've seen a single swan absolutely beat the shit out of a handful of geese over an extended period of time. I've seen plenty of predators and prey, but this was pretty disturbing. Maybe because it wasn't a predator in that fight at all.

Every human in earshot was standing around like "do we... do something? It's nature, but... that's fucked up"

I'd say both the swan and the geese are predators. Some of the most dangerous things around (mainly to fish) unless you're in an area with crocs or gators. I guess they also share space with dangerous snakes and various African and Australian animals but I'm talking more about areas I've been.

[–] theUwUhugger@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

I wouldn’t want to? They are the things known for their agression! And an animal loses all sympathy once it attacks me unprovoked!

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You've definitely never been ambushed and attacked by a swan, those fuckers are crazy, I got in a few fights with the local swans when I was younger, you'd be surprised at how tough those little fuckers are. They're like upmarket geese.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Canadian geese hiss and that shit can startle the shit out of someone. Imagine hearing a snake out of a goose.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He handled that dinosaur like a fucking boss.

[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

Didn't even need to put his bag down.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well, I can't believe fighting a bird has come up twice in a two day span.

But, how are you going to grab its neck?

You're in the water, with a big-ass set of wings pounding at you, a beak that is pounding at you, with their raucous calls disorienting you.

You aren't going to be seeing clearly. You'll be blinking, flinching, and maybe even keeping your eyes closed so they don't get injured.

And now you want to reach out and grab that moving neck.

I'm not saying it's impossible. But it isn't exactly as easy as people seem to think.

I've been attacked by geese while fishing. And it was on land, where I should have an advantage what with being able to stand firmly. I've fought humans and dogs before and come away with only minor injuries. Big birds are harder to manage.

But, nah, you aren't just precisely grabbing the neck of a big-ish bird when it comes at you. You think you're fast, and you may be. But you aren't enraged bird fast.

Those necks are also wiggly and feathered. So getting a grip if you manage to make the initial grab isn't a guarantee.

Then what are you going to do with it? Even on land, you aren't going to be able to 100% kill the bird just because you have its neck. You aren't going to be able to just throw it either.

In the water? Your footing is less stable to begin with, so all of the above is harder.

Also, killing or injuring the bird isn't necessarily desirable. You can get into trouble doing that, depending on where it happens. Even if you won't, swans and geese don't attack humans just because. There's always a reason because fighting is dangerous. Aggression definitely has a survival benefit, but not when it's random.

So now you're the asshole that went somewhere there were birds nesting, or eating, or resting and instead of backing off when they warned you (and they usually do), and you're trying to injure or kill it when all it wants is you to go away. That's a seriously douchey thing to do.

Think about it.

[–] mriswith@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Around about there yeah, they can get up about 15kg but most are smaller. There are videos of people grabbing them by the neck and putting them back in the water.

But people love to overplay geese and swans as these powerful beasts because of how aggressive and loud they are, and that they can cause bleeding and such with their beak. Some even throw around the idea that they can break your arm. Meanwhile their bones are much smaller and honeycombed. They're about the strength of a really stale breadstick.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mind did not register swan at first for some reason. I pictured a goose for some reason. I was confused and just thought that the guy should have just open hand popped it in the face and it would back down. Geese nest all the time in my area, so fighting off a goose is fairly normal ... but then I registered "Swan". Nope, you don't want to mess with it.

[–] clashorcrashman@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Every year my fiance go down to the pond down the road and make friends with the Canadian geese. Everyone here seems to hate them, but they're lovely when you are kind to them. I don't know much about swans. They're definitely bigger and more robust, so I'm sure they could hurt someone real bad. But I don't actively try to engage wildlife in combat, so I feel like I'd be ok around them.