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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 59 points 3 days ago (6 children)

If the day started at 1:00 then by the second hour you would be at 2:00, even though only 1 hour has passed. Effectively the day starts at 0. In fact in 24-hour time that is how it's depicted, 00:00 with midday being depicted as 12:00, so it isn't confusing

[–] Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Careful, there are Americans around

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[–] demunted@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a programmer I'd rather it start at 0

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 86 points 4 days ago (1 children)

IIRC they counted the bones in their fingers using their thumb and that gives 12. The first sundial was around the equator and there is always light for half a day, so half a day becomes 12 hours.

To count large numbers often one hand was used to count using 5 fingers and the other to count the bones, so you get 5x12 for 60 minutes.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (12 children)

AIUI there was an aspect in the divisibility of the numbers being convenient.

12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6. 60 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20, and 30.

10 is divisible by 2 and 5. 100 is divisible by 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, and 50.

If you want to minimize dealing with fractions, 12 and 60 are far more convenient than 10 and 100.

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[–] folekaule@lemmy.world 97 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At least our hours are the same length regardless of latitude now, so let's be grateful for that.

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[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 64 points 4 days ago (8 children)
[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 49 points 4 days ago (5 children)
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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Why the 'IIII' insted of 'IV'?

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Prevents confusion between the four and the six: III, IV, V, VI, when the watch is not held perfectly vertically for viewing.

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[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"At least we're not mixing in letters"

[–] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I see IIII in there and I cry a little on the inside.

[–] Mayonnaise@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This has become a standard on analog clocks and watches (presumably to avoid confusion with VI), but for some reason IX and XI (for 9 and 11 respectively) is fine.

Personally I’d like to see IX and IIIIIIIIIII.

ETA: I guess IX and XI are ‘fine’ because they’re not upside down, but my point still stands.

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[–] teslasaur@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's the same logic that was used by ancient astronomers to arrive at 360 degrees for a full revolution.

The math is easier if you have to do it by hand.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's also the one advantage Imperial has over metric. It's easier to do mental math in a lot of cases in base 12 rather than base 10.

Now excuse me while I bar my windows and doors from the mobs of angry people that show every time I point this out.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 56 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I only recently learned the etymology of the word: "second"

Its name comes from being the "second" division of the hour, with the minute being the first.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'll see you in 5 firsts, 2 seconds and 7 thirds.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Somebody never had a clock with roman numerals and it shows

I remember getting into an argument with a grade school teacher over IIII because most such clocks put that for 4 instead of IV because of some fuckin reason

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I despise these so so much. IIII was historically NEVER correct. Some doofus decided to put that on a clock because it looks more symmetrical with the VIII on the other side. Terrible reasoning.

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

"However, even though it is now widely accepted that 4 must be written IV, the original and most ancient pattern for Roman numerals wasn’t the same as what we know today. Earliest models did, in fact, use VIIII for 9 (instead of IX) and IIII for 4 (instead of IV). However, these two numerals proved problematic, they were easily confused with III and VIII. Instead of the original additive notation, the Roman numeral system changed to the more familiar subtractive notation. However, this was well after the fall of the Roman Empire."

https://monochrome-watches.com/why-do-clocks-and-watches-use-roman-numeral-iiii-instead-of-iv/

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[–] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (20 children)

Clocks should use 24h format. AM/PM is completely useless.

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[–] WhatsTheHoldup@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Don't listen to OP's bullshit.

They work for big clock. They're trying to convince you 12 hour clock is useless so they can sell you double the clock.

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[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Somebody gave me this clock…I just need the time.

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (16 children)

Days start at 0h, not 12h

It can't start at 12 hours if there are 24 segments.

And keep your letters out of it too.

[–] tauren@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Days start at 0h, not 12h

Show me where is the zero here?

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[–] LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

The 6 means 30, both of which also mean 1/2

[–] JoYo@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

At least we're not mixing in letters

Zulu Time: Am I a joke to you?

[–] Lucien@mander.xyz 27 points 4 days ago (6 children)

We have Babylon to thank for this

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 32 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Well, then I can't complain, lovely sci-fi production.

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[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Sundials.

Now if you want to get really pissed, the magnetic North Pole is actually the South Pole of the Earth’s magnetic field. We call it the North Pole because the north side of a magnet points to it.

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[–] StThicket@reddthat.com 17 points 4 days ago (6 children)

When I become dictator of the world, this will be the new time unit: https://metric-time.com/

The year will also have 13 months: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Fixed_Calendar

The year will be 12025: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_calendar

Because these things just make more sense. You will thank me after a few generations, because habits are hard to change.

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