German Social Democrat Leader Boycotts Bernie Over Palestine : worldnews

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 172 points 8 months ago

Fucking virtue signaling for team Israel.
It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government. That is NOT antisemitism.

[-] livus@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

Might not be all that commited to her virtue signalling, at that.

Someone who closely monitors her wikipedia page is trying to keep this information on her political position from appearing there...

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

It's antisemitism to insist that Jewish people who don't even live there are connected to Israel's crimes aginst humanity

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 55 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sure, I don't know what that has to do with notable Jewish senator Bernard Sanders that lived in a Kibbutz in Israel at one time, though.

[-] propaganja@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Quite notable, that Bernard.

[+] Ooops@kbin.social -13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It is OK to criticize or express caution about Israeli policies and government.

No, it's not if you are German.

And this has nothing to to with some signaling for team Israel. If a single high-ranking politician in Germany would be caught saying that Israel is commiting war crimes the international media wouldn't need more than 30 minutes before the calls for invading to denazify Germany again would start. And with the usual hateful morons being in control it would only need to another 30 minutes before we had reached the bomb them all and finally destroy that failed country stage on social media.

You should really try having any opinoin but one of highest praise and adoration for Israel as a random nobody from Germany on social media. Then you might understand actual reality. This is not Germans that call for your immidiate execution the moment you dare to criticise Israel.

FFS... I dared to mention over on Reddit that Hamas' terrorist acts don't suddenly make Israel's actions right and now have another dozen new messages calling me a nazi or calling for me to be shot (or both) for my collection, alongside with a lot of new messages from Reddit's mental health bot offering me all the hotline numbers I obviously need before I start hurting my self and others in my unstable mental state.

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

Your rant is unfocused. I'm not sure it communicates much. Perhaps you could simplify?

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago

It's almost beyond belief, but it's true.

Even the simplest softest anti-Zionist criticisms are turned into huge anti-semitic proclamations, and those in turn are beyond the pale in Germany. In the last week Israel flags have sprung up everywhere, as well as missing person posters for Israelis supposedly abducted by Hamas.

But that's as far as German support for Jews goes - or maybe one should call it German repentance for the crimes of the Nazis.

At the same time anti-semitic violence has always been happening in the background, but it's never really reported on or discussed. There are regular Nazi "cells" discovered within police and military, but it's always "isolated incidents." The constitutional protection agency (Verfassungsschutz) is run by Nazi adjacents. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 125 points 8 months ago

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

Hahahaha

[-] livus@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago

@roguetrick this is even better than Don Draper "I don't think of you at all."

[-] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago

Damn, I should rewatch that show. It was goddamn great.

[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 114 points 8 months ago

So ... the German is boycotting the Jewish guy's event over his statements regarding the morality of war crimes. The Onion is doomed, we're out of satire.

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

No way, dude… have you seen the Onion this week? They are killing it and should be accused of war crimes any minute now.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Oh they can’t possibly be. They sided with Israel - because it’s politically safer

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 79 points 8 months ago

Lol I just can’t with these people going after Sanders, who is Jewish

[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

He's the wrong kind of Jew.

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 19 points 8 months ago

They want the placid, malleable kind of jew, not one who has his own opinions.

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 12 points 8 months ago

They want Zionists, if you aren't a Zionist Jew, what good are you?

[-] Suoko@feddit.it 8 points 8 months ago

He represents 17% of the Jewish population. https://g.co/bard/share/8f756e99642e

It's nice to read a non-biased AIi opinion on the zionism matter. https://g.co/bard/share/81ff92a41241

[-] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

When they said "Be a light unto the nations" they were referring to the white phosphorus***.

***Alleged

[-] Redex68@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago

Literally the only American politician with any integrity who stands by his beliefs and ofc he never wins an election. This is why we can't have nice things, because apparently feeding homeless people is communism but subsidising dying fossil fuel industries is patriotism.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 21 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't knock the electability anyone who can win senator or governor, particularly for as long as Bennie has held on.

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 36 points 8 months ago

Saskia Esken is being antisemitic by silencing and shaming Jewish voices

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My father taught me something early on which I paraphrase as "when in doubt, shut the fuck up". Clearly that lady was not taught that lesson.

[-] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It is better to be thought of as a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

[+] Mcdolan@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Are they still doing that thing that when reality turns out this absurd they start posting actual straight journalist reports?

[-] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 28 points 8 months ago

Germany will keep simping to Israel till the end of time. lol Isn't Bernie Jewish himself?

[-] Dultas@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Even lived in Israel for a few months volunteering. https://forward.com/israel/332946/revealed-at-last-inside-the-kibbutz-where-bernie-sanders-lived-and-learned/

[-] saxysammyp@beehaw.org 4 points 8 months ago

Sure is

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

German politician is against Jew who made a clear stand against war crimes.

Sounds familiar, somehow.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 8 months ago

Lunatics take positions like this.

[-] zerfuffle@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 months ago

According to the IDF, targeting civilians is their right.

[-] dumdum666@kbin.social 19 points 8 months ago

If indeed only this sentence was the reason for Esken to cancel the meeting - it is a clear overreaction. Nobody should be on board with targeting civilians - meaning: they should not get attacked on purpose. Never.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 18 points 8 months ago

I like that Bernie's response to "eat the rich is" "No, no, no, that's a start, but it's not enough."

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

A member of Senator Sanders’s staff said that as far as he knew, “Bernie had never heard of Saskia Esken, but I’m sure he would have been pleased to meet her.”

[-] honeynut@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

objectively the moderate wing

[+] doom_and_gloom@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Oh no, now she won't be buying any more Bernie Sanderses!

[-] nyar@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Liberals are very quickly taking a turn into undeniable fascism. I was concerned what might happen when the climate wars truly begin, but now I don't have any concerns, I know.

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

The SDP has been a joke for a long time and it will continue to be a joke for quite some time to come.

[-] taanegl@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

"Social democrat" is just capture of socialistic values, dispersed under the umbrella of liberalism. Social democrats still support new public management, "global markets" and privatisation of everything. In effect they relish in the slavery that these markets impose, a race to the bottom where human life is worth nothing, while pretending they are doing something different.

They are in effect establishment politicians.

[-] TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

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[-] library_napper@monyet.cc -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Germans generally aren't the best authority on treating the jews, so...

[+] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml -14 points 8 months ago

Yo, fuck the coal nation of Germany.

[+] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -17 points 8 months ago

Reminder that Germany never underwent denazification.

[+] Isakk86@lemmy.world -23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Something something glass houses

[-] toastus@feddit.de 6 points 8 months ago

What are you saying?

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