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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1812073

cross-posted from: https://derp.foo/post/81940

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Apparently the BMW full self deiving is failing at these tasks too and killing people. It is absurd how quickly the country has allowed self driving...it's like beta testing

[-] ejsexton82@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago

What's also scary is how irresponsible people are being with this technology.

I had someone tell me they routinely take naps on their drive into work using lane assist and adaptive cruise control! I started laughing but they didn't laugh back...

[-] figaro 9 points 1 year ago

Geez people are stupid

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I love those technologies and they've literally saved me from a 30 car pileup but I'd never sleep behind the wheel at the current state of it.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Oh god, wtf.

[-] NekoRiv@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

Christ. I hope they're driving on a traffic less straight line. I use both routinely and there's always moments I feel safer just taking control, some curves, odd traffic lines and other drivers merging in close make me sweat with those features.

[-] 3ntranced@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

This is why I carry the ol' safety brick. Fits right in the center console. Just make sure to account for velocity when aiming.

[-] Disgusted_Tadpole@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Also, naming it auto pilot was the dumbest idea

[-] LeeNeighoff@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

I think "autopilot" is an accurate name. An aircraft's autopilot is not designed to allow unsupervised flight. It merely assists with the more "mundane" tasks so the pilot can focus on things that need more active human monitoring. It seems that the type of people to buy these cars for this feature are also the type of people who do not understand what an autopilot is supposed to do. I guess in that sense, I do agree with you.

My thing is that these cars have enough design problems already, and I feel like conflating an autopilot feature with how people are abusing it will pull focus away from the larger issues. Like that horrible manual door release design in another post, and other questionable safety choices.

[-] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah but when actual human drivers are the competition the bar isn't that high

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My thought as well. "Running red lights and killing people" sounds scary until you realize that's already what we're living with.

How do the rates compare when we look at AI vs human drivers? AI vs perfection isn't as useful a metric.

Fuck Elon and all his shit companies, but AI has a lot of potential, especially in things we suck at like driving.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Make the companies who put self-driving in their vehicles liable for the vehicles insurance. This would work two fold as this ensures the ability to meet the financial payout in the case of an accident because they have the financial backing of the whole company instead of an individual, and it incentivises them to improve safety to minimise insurance claims and costs.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

While there are bad drivers that make terrible mistakes, I would hope they would brake for a child crossing the street if seen, rather than self driving that just didn't register it and plows through.

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm sure a quick Google search will reveal a multitude of cases where that wasn't the case. People kill kids with cars all the time, in fact the only greater danger to a child's life in the US is being shot.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I don't doubt it. just saying i'd hope a person would notice, even with full assistant ans take action

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I would have taken a second to understand this poorly designed intersection. The driver should have intervened.

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