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The Polish armed forces are training citizen volunteers how to be armed partisans, firing rifles and donning gas masks.

That's... not great. The program is apparently popular, so they are expanding its capacity so that every adult male receives the training.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Drones, teach them to fly drones.

[–] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I just imagined a future where drones are so pervasive and advanced against current defenses, the only real defence would be a electromagnetic pulse. Even losing all other electronic means of communication, infrastructure, etc., at least the explosive and chemical weapons death swarm that was coming just fell to the ground. And guns and gunpowder will still work.
(Losing most all electricity is probably not worth the trade off, just a short thought)

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Wide dispersal EMPs are typically not that effective against smaller devices so drones with autonomous backups would be hard to effect in anything but a small area, even with a high altitude nuclear EMP.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

The stuff that the Brits recently tested is exactly an EMP pulse, though directional.

The thing is, you can harden the drones against that.

[–] KayLeadfoot@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

Thought crossed my mind.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Poland is going to be the monkey wrench in the gears for Putin's plan.

I'm big on Poland.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

russia can barely handle ukraine; they're never going to bother w europe.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nothing bad ever came from underestimating your enemies right?

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Not if Poland keeps up like they have been.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

They're building bases close to the Finnish border. I almost feel sorry for them, but not really.

Joking aside though, if a new front opens it's highly likely it'll be here. Our politicians are already ensuring we have a plan, and ..we'll, we do.

If they want to fight us in the forests again I don't think it'll end like Putin thinks it will, no matter if it's summer or winter.

Their drones won't be as effective, and while they may well have a larger army now than when they started that'd change pretty quickly I believe.

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[–] finder585@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Poles ready to defend the country if those fears become a reality? A recent poll found that only 10.7% of adults said they would join the army as volunteers in the event of war, and a third said they would flee.

Understandable, but also kind of sad. Poland exists because its people fought back against authoritarian bastards.

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but due to gov fucking up and people struggling to make ends meet, patriotism fell a lot. Even a decade ago I'd say half of poles were patriotic and half weren't....and it fell hella lower than that.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Canada's new Liberal government, under threat of annexation from the US, is advancing a civilian disarmament agenda.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't you guys just lure American forces into the woods and attack them like Ewoks?

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

That's top secret defense information! We have a leak.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It's not total disarmament, hockey sticks are effective weapons.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Source? I can’t find any mentions of gun control from Carney.

I know Trudeau went a bit hard on it but Trudeau’s gone

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/carney-plan-border-rcmp-bail-1.7507110

Carney said a Liberal government would reinvigorate the assault-style firearm buyback program launched in 2020, shortly after the mass shooting in Portapique, N.S., which left 22 people dead.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

An attack on Poland would immediately invoke NATO Article 5, drawing in the combined forces of continental Europe, the UK, the US and Turkey. The world wouldn't need to worry about it going nuclear, conventional forces would have the Russians back over the Belarusian border by lunchtime.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Mango Fucking Mussolini would abandon Poland like the British and French in 1939. Fuck Russia and the MAGAts, this German supports the European NATO members and especially our neighbors to the east. If the motherfucking Muscovites attack, I will request to be reinstated and do whatever I can to stop the filthy bastards.

[–] nuko147@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Mango Mussolini 😂 😂 😂

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Who needs’em? If Uncle Vlad hears that Ze Germans are rolling across the Polish border, he’ll be skipping on one leg back to Russia while changing his soiled pants. :D

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would love to believe you but looking at the sleepy AF response when Europe decided to help Ukraine...

Yeah, no, Poland is a buffer. Again.

[–] lazyViking@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh damn, I wasn't aware Ukraine was part of NATO

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you think the poles won't get betrayed I have a bridge to sell you

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If Ukraine was NATO, we'd be out in all force already.

It is only because we don't have a defense treaty with them that we risk the NATO treaty if any NATO country decides to send troops. Since they are essentially deciding for every NATO country to enter the war then.

But if they attack a NATO country like Poland, then that is exact what NATO is designed for and nothing is risked.

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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Ukraine not being a NATO member yet is most likely among the main reasons Putin had the balls to send troops across the border. There's absolutely no way he'd risk a full-on confrontation with NATO, because he knows it would be the end of the Russian Federation.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ukraine isn’t a member of NATO. In fact, their wish to join the EU and NATO could very well be the excuse Putin needed to start the invasion.

[–] spongeborgcubepants@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Unfortunately that's not necessarily what article 5 implies. It only states that the member nations will respond, not how exactly they will respond.

[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] attinio@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

They will send a strongly worded letter to Putin.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 7 points 1 year ago

Then article 42 of the EU

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

This is what I fear will happen when Canada is annexed. The other NATO members will express outrage, but who's going to launch an invasion across the Atlantic against the most powerful armed forces in the world to liberate Canada?

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Sdes01@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago

We need this is Canada to get ready for Trump's invasion.

Lots of people are buying guns to prepare.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Fuck the blyats.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

calm down dude; who would invade Poland anyway

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