I mean, the only other option is to plead guilty, and nobody would do that. So this was kind of expected.
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Murder is where you kill an innocent person. Killing a spree killer, esp during the spree, is just defending people. Hopefully the jury is made cognizant of that.
Flushing a toilet isn't a crime.
Prosecutor: Could you find defendant guilty?
Potential juror: I could.
Narrator: They couldn't.
I don't think jury nullification will be needed. I legit think that Luigi didn't do it. Meaning a simple acquittal is all what is needed.
As for the real killer? I hope he lived a quiet life.
This is 100% the approach I'm betting the defense will take. "Yeah he did it but he deserved it" would be a great story but an absolute dipshit defense to take. Court of law is separate from court of public opinion, and unless they can prove he did it without reasonable doubt then not guilty is the way to go.
Luigi is a hero. But not because he killed a CEO, or anyone. Because he was framed by the government, dragged through the mud, humiliated publicly, and held his head high standing 10 feet tall. Not guilty plea is nothing less than I expected. We should all take note of his example. They can't beat us all if we resist.
Seeing the way Luigi was carrying himself, and his facial expressions, makes me wonder. Does he actually have a cast-iron allibi just waiting to be revealed?
I have not seen genuine evidence it was actually him. This wouldn't even be the first or last time evidence was planted on someone to paint a narrative.
The way I see it, they needed a scapegoat. Because how do you just lose a murderer in broad daylight?
There's no way someone smart enough to do all that somehow gets hungry and loafs around at a McDonald's? The real killer collected his bounty and is living on a remote island by now.
They needed to do anything to stop copycats from popping up, and they did an okay job at doing so.
The picture they showed and Luigi… looks like two different people.
I hope his lawyers is using the Chewbacca defense.
They needed to do anything to stop copycats from popping up, and they did an okay job at doing so.
Though I wonder if that will remain the case if Luigi actually does come up with an alibi he had all along, waiting to reveal it all this time just to really rub it in how law enforcement screwed this up. And with all the spotlight on him all the time, the real killer could be anywhere in the world at this point, completely unknown and unreachable. Not exactly a scenario that scares people off
Well a lot of people who are willing to take things this far don't really care about the consequences of their actions anyway, so in a way I'm kind of surprised there are so many mass shootings involving innocent people, yet so few targeted attacks on scumbags like the CEO of United Healthcare.
For many who are pushed far enough to carry out something like this, achieving their objective is more important than their own life.
Unfortunately, the victims are so often people who don't deserve it.
Well, that settles it then. Better release him for the sake of Government Efficiency and all that.
“He who saves his country commits no crime “
Watch out, fascists love that motto
That kid didn’t do it. They are railroading him too hard and committing too many procedural violations for it to be anything but a setup.
Any normal case a judge would throw everything out for how prejudicial the state has behaved.
The face they don’t care how blatantly prejudicial they are shows they don’t care if he did it or not.
He didn’t do it.
The CEOs wife had hmm killed for meeting his side piece there.
The assassin was from El Salvador or something.
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I believe him.
He couldn't have done it! He was having a couple beers with me at the time that CEO died
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If the eyebrows don't fit, you must acquit.
Solidarity aside, whenever you are arraigned, any lawyer worth their salt will advise you to plead not guilty, because entering a guilty plea means it's over, move on to sentencing, where you have no leverage at all.
You can always change a not guilty plea to a guilty plea later, if a plea deal offered by the prosecution is acceptable to you. This is especially relevant in a case where the death penalty is on the table, but also applies to the possibility of reduced charges or penalties in any case.
I'll also add that this case could well end up with an Alford plea. In short, where the defendant asserts innocence, does not admit to the criminal act, but accepts the sentence because they believe that a jury would find them guilty based on the evidence. Again, this is definitely related to a case where the death penalty is on the table.
I'd be very disappointed in any jury who found him guilty
Having been on a jury,
People are dumb and have no empathy
I was on a grand jury some years ago in NYC. It really did a number on my faith in people and the legal system.
Now, a grand jury is different than a regular (petit) jury in a few key ways. First, you only need simple majority to move forward with an indictment. You can't 12-angry-men hang a grand jury. Second, as I learned later, even if you do convince a majority to not indict, the prosecutor can just try again. So all those times the police didn't get indicted for murder and the prosecutor just gave up? They could have tried again. They didn't, because they didn't want to.
All of that said, the cases were largely about drugs. People selling weed and heroin and the like. No violence. I suggested to the jury that we maybe just say no, and don't ruin people's lives over marijuana. You don't have to show your work. You can just say whatever. The whole rest of the jury was like "are you insane?" Some of them were just anti-drug, full stop no context. Some of them were like "We have to do what they tell us" very obedient. Some of them just wanted to go home, and thought an indictment would be the fastest way.
They all voted to indict on every charge. The guy who was sleeping, and the lawyers and cops laughed at him snoring, also voted to indict.
I asked the little old white lady sitting behind me a hypothetical. I asked if she was on a jury in the 60s, and the charge was a black man eating at an all white's diner, if she would indict. She was like, "Hmmm maybe."
I tried. One of the cases the cops said they found a gun in the man's house, so they charged him with intent to use it in a violent crime, or something. I was like, they didn't even try to prove it was his or that he was going to use it. Everyone voted to indict. I'm just like, why do you have to make it easier for the police?
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yay!
World needs fewer Elons and more Luigis
The world needs no Elons at all
Without the elons there likely would be no luigis
We'd still have Luigi, he'd just be doing more QA work for Civ or going surfing instead of being dragged around for this show trial.
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Good, honestly we don't even know if he's the person who did the crime.
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