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[-] randomaccount43543@lemmy.world 112 points 7 months ago
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[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 93 points 7 months ago

*Badly outdated Chrome with a bunch of critical vulnerabilities.

Don't forget every Electron app comes with its own Chrome.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Last time I checked the version Electron used by Discord was severely out of date causing several issues that had been solved months ago upstream. That’s the fault of Discord, not Electron but there are several issues with Chromium that I have to deal with on every Electron app I use. Compose sequences are still partially broken. I reported it at Chromium but they responded with a video of them testing it on Windows (not with a VM), said they couldn’t reproduce the issue (with a Linux specific input method?!) and then marked it as unreproducible.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 7 months ago

Wait, you're telling me that Discord is probably still vulnerable to the Webp RCE vulnerability?

[-] SmoothIsFast@citizensgaming.com 20 points 7 months ago

They use plain text and there biggest shareholder is the Tencent (the CCP let's be real) are you surprised? It's literally a data farm for China...

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

They probably manually added the patch.

[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

They updated to a version that included a patch for that exploit, however it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, because they're still on 22.x, support for which has already been terminated

[-] halva@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

Problem is, for any somewhat big project (like discord) updating Electron without something breaking is a nightmarishly complex venture as Electron doesn't seem to care about backwards compatibility.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 7 months ago

The error is in picking Electron in the first place. One particular case that I've had with several Electron apps are zombie processes. You close the window, but you check the task manager and see 4-5 processes hanging in there, eating resources for no reason.

[-] qaz@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I agree that it’s silly to package your app as a website with a browser but what other options do you have? GTK is difficult to get working on Windows, wxwidgets requires installing libraries on every system and Qt is either paid or LGPL. The only real crossplatform options seem to be Flutter and some .NET frameworks.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

FreePascal + Lazarus have been desktop crossplatform for many years. "But it's Pascal! Nobody uses Pascal! And the defaults are fugly!", fair enough, but it offers compatible crossplatform UI with a single codebase.

Java also lets you write UI stuff and keep a single codebase for multiple platforms, thanks to the JVM. It always looks "weird" or "ugly" next to whatever OS's default UI is and also needs a compatible JRM installed, but it works.

Nowadays, web/javascript projects can opt for Tauri or Neutralinojs instead of Electron. They use the OS's native HTML renderer, no browser required.

[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 10 points 7 months ago

And they thought snaps were dumb

[-] rdri@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Steam is using CEF v85 (not Electron but still). Should have gone "please be aware to not visit even slightly shady websites until we update it" but instead went "oh you must like security, so we announce that we will drop Windows 7/8 support in half a year (because ~~CEF~~ Microsoft doesn't support it anymore) so you could play your games more securely".

[-] Vincent@kbin.social 53 points 7 months ago

Y'all, there's a full video, this single image doesn't do it justice: https://birdbutt.com/@barnibu/110995778137311940

[-] solivine@sopuli.xyz 22 points 7 months ago

Lol edge at the end got me

[-] HKayn@dormi.zone 14 points 7 months ago

The fact that the frame rate of the camera pan doesn't match up with the frame rate of the props is kinda nauseating ngl

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[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 51 points 7 months ago

Screw chromium! All my homies hate chromium!

[-] cheerjoy@lemmy.world 38 points 7 months ago

Please don't screw chromium, you might cut yourself on the edges.

[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

😳 thanks for the heads up. Because if I’m gonna cut myself down there I’m gonna scream like I’m in a Vivaldi Opera. And you know me — I was definitely Brave enough to have some Steamy “Noah get the Ark” action with it, so you literally saved me.

BTW I heard that Chrome is bad for the environment because it’s so resource intensive. That’s why me and car manufacturers are getting rid of it.

Plus I hate how it looks and feels. I would much rather get stranded in a Safari than have to stand how chrome looks.

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 13 points 7 months ago

It is not clear from this pictures whether these drums are finger size or building size. Need more perspective!

[-] RacoonVegetable@reddthat.com 7 points 7 months ago

Least scuffed Aliexpress experience

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[-] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 45 points 7 months ago

'Ate chrome
'Ate system d
'Ate GNOME (not racist just don't like it)

Love me firefox
Love me openrc
Love me TTY and DWM
Love me Gentoo

[-] redhilsha@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

wayland is the future old man

[-] Dirk@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago

Wayland can't even remap keys to other characters.

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[-] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago
[-] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Flex your makeopts jobs amount. I've got 30.

[-] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

I don't know why but you comment reminded me that I haven't updated in a week 💀

I use gentoo on a laptop so I have 4 makeopts jobs only.

[-] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Ow. I didn't use gentoo until I had good enough hardware that updates wouldn't take 2 days to finish. I used arch or freebsd when I only had a laptop available.

[-] Gentoo1337@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Surprisingly, it only takes a couple of minutes. Except if I have to update firefox or nodejs or clang or llvm or gcc, those take 4 hour minimum and it's worse when they all have to update at the same time. It's spring where I live and I don't want to know what will happen to my laptop when i try to update on summer.

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[-] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago
[-] gronjo45@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

I want to get better at using TUIs and all the lot of lighter-weight software, but I've quite frankly been too stupid to learn it.

I downloaded Gentoo onto an old Chromebook with the Mr Chromebox script. Currently am trying to make it into a sandbox for me to learn more about how init systems, compilers, and other lower level OS details.

Other than reading the Wikis, are there any projects that you'd suggest to increase one's ability in those realms? Thanks!

[-] technologicalcaveman@kbin.social 7 points 7 months ago

Really what got me to learn to use the terminal more was downloading systems without tons of gui apps. Most base systems will be like that. In general my only gui apps are a file browser, web browser, and audio tools. Debian, arch, gentoo, nix. Avoid stuff like mint or endeavour if you want to force yourself into learning the terminal. The more you use it, the better you'll get. Using gui apps isn't bad, sometimes it just works better for specific actions. But knowing how to use the terminal helps for when nothing else works.

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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 39 points 7 months ago

Future?, we basically living it already

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago

The future is now, old man!

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[-] thepiguy@lemmy.ml 27 points 7 months ago

Leave me in the "past" with my gtk4 applications please.

[-] TCB13@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Isn't that Webkit as well? lol

[-] blujan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

Webkit's not chrome, tho, not even close

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[-] jackmarxist@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago

Is there a Firefox powered framework like electron?

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

gluonjs could be an alternative. IIRC there's another framework similar to Electron that uses native system WebView for rendering and Rust for interfacing directly with the OS, the name escapes me for the moment though.

Edit: I remembered the name! It's Tauri

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 7 months ago

NeutralinoJS is an option similar to Tauri. You don't need to bundle a whole fucking browser just to run a couple of webpages with some javascript.

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[-] dgbbad@lemmy.zip 11 points 7 months ago

Cyberpunk 2077 proves this to be true.

[-] trailing9@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

All refs load into ChRome.

[-] Saigonauticon@voltage.vn 4 points 7 months ago

It was the best scene in Mad Max.

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