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[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A hearing is part of deportation.

Without Due Process it's literally just human trafficking, which is a felony in every single state.

[–] TON618@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Without due process Trump would be in jail, so he's very much aware if it's importance.

"Cannot give every person it wants to deport a trial" can be freely translated to "nobody would get deported".

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

As someone outside the US, I was told that people were very keen on keeping lots of guns to react in case the government tried to pull this kind of shit. When's the part where they react?

I'm sarcastic; I know why it isn't happening, and realistically it would be a terrible thing, but, you know, we're living in the weirdest time.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

It literally has too. It’s in the constitution.

[–] Robust_Mirror@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think you know the meaning of "has to". The law, including the constitution, isn't any more "real" than money. It only exists because enough people agree it does and follow it.

The fact people have literally already been deported without trial proves they don't "have to".

[–] Fiki_Fiki@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump and his lackeys also figured out that it's easier to do something illegal and wait for courts to catch up than to try to get greenlighted beforehand

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Easier to ask for forgiveness, than permission.

[–] Orangutanion@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We passed that point when we ignored the 14th amendment.

[–] Catchmeifyoucan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's not the reason they're avoiding it, the reason is that they can't be sure that their case will be heard by one of their corrupt justices. They haven't yet covered all their bases.

[–] goldfndr@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

All their bases aren't belong to them.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 day ago

Main screen turn on !

For example, Greenland, Diego Garcia and Okinawa are all leased.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But the constitution gives me constipation. Currently, the Constitution is just toilet paper under Trump bum.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Impeachment doesn't require a congressional vote either then

[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (11 children)

He's been impeached it didn't do squat

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[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just a pull of an index finger.

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

Then you can't deport, numb nuts.

[–] Treetrimmer@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't follow all of the laws of this country, there's just simply too many of them

[–] dabailli@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

If you only consider the ones that are followed, it’s a bit easier

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I knew it - to the qons, the Constitution is just something they like to talk about, but don't really care about.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US CAN, you fucking asswipe. You don't WANT to.

You are like a petulant child, only caring about what you want, you narcissistic prick.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Holding trial for the millions of people Trump wants to deport runs the very real and obvious possibility that not all the judges will rubber-stamp the deportations. In fact, you might start running into judges who deliberately obstruct the process because they have a visceral disgust for the practice of mass deportation.

Can't have that, because the goal is to ethnically cleanse the country. Once Trump decides deporting people to El Salvadorian death camps is too difficult / expensive, we're going to start seeing them spring up all over the interior of the country as well.

[–] Sciaphobia@lemm.ee 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

That's such a coincidence. Some guillotining could be done without trials too!

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

“THERE were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.”

― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 186 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well then it can’t deport all the people it wants to.

But at the same time, my faith in the judicial system is… flagging.

[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (7 children)

And our social contract may be expiring. 🤷‍♀️

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 149 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

In other words, Trump says he can deport anyone he wants without trial.

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[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

How about... We can not give every tax to US that it wants to collect, there is just too many.

[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Well yeah, why do you think the billionaires don't pay taxes? Can you imagine counting out all those millions? Just easier to skip them, they give enough as it is already. /s

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Sic Semper Tyrannis!

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 82 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So due process is no longer a thing.

Got it.

Hey Maga when Trump turns this on you and you piss and moan about no due process... My response will be this

🖕

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol.

America the brave is sitting by while a fat, orange felon rapist shits on our Constitution and tanks our economy.

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[–] theotherbelow@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 2 days ago
[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

Key words there being "it wants to deport".

The problem isn't the trials, it's the selection criteria.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Add it to the list of impeachable charges, we will give orange man a trial regardless.

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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whattt? Is Trump saying that the US of A, the "greatest" country in the world, can't engage in its secondmost favourite activity which is literally suing people?

Not picking favourites, but the Biden administration, not even the Clinton administration, had this "skill issue".

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