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[–] anonproxy00@lemm.ee 29 points 4 days ago

joe 100% holds some not insignificant amount of blame for all this bs.

he IS a monster, it IS to late for him.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 226 points 6 days ago

Joe you helped us become this monster you fucking idiot.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago

Joe, you're already the monsters.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 4 days ago

Too late for that.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 119 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Why do people listen to this idiot? His stance changes when the wind blows. The "wind" being a threat to his profit.

I mean, I don't think Rogan is "Evil," or even little "e" evil, but for Pete's sake, he's just a meathead dudebro who has let fame and money go to his head. He should go back to just smoking weed and talking about aliens.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 76 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Recklessly endangering the health of an entire democratic system for short term monetary gain is definitely little e evil.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

He's so dumb, I think he thought all of this was just shit talking, at first.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

His entire job as an MMA commentator is to interview people who were recently concussed into a pulp. That’s about where he’s at — able to converse with people who are struggling to stay lucid enough to not get carried out on a stretcher. Something something DMT and gorillas, Jamie pull that up.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago

The "wind" being a threat to his profit. I mean, I don't think Rogan is "Evil,"

That's textbook Nazis. They were all for it until it wasn't popular and a threat to their profit.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 days ago

He's at a minimum little “e” evil. I've seen him go full far-right and MAGA.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 13 points 6 days ago

Unprincipled self-serving assholes ARE evil. If you spread dangerous words that end up motivating people into harming others, YOU are at fault.

That is why we shouldn't tolerate hateful talk towards innocent people, even when "he's just joking!", "she doesn't really mean it!". Enough little words together make an avalanche, and his words are not even little.

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[–] railcar@midwest.social 96 points 6 days ago (4 children)

He deserves all the flak, but we need to accept and encourage people who are changing their mind or we're all fucked.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

This - late is always better than never.

If tomorrow everyone just agreed to hate and reject Trump - 0% approval, anti-fascist public sentiment like it's 1944, and expedited impeachment - on the condition that we never bring up to the 50 million people how terrible it was that they supported him, would we agree to it?

I'd like to think I would, but maybe just like delusional anger, justifiable anger is a drug that can make us act irrationally and against our own interests.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I suspect it’s because a lot of people, myself included, think that this is how you get to festering problems that are fertile ground for the next authoritarian.

There was a brief moment after J6 where Lindsay Graham took to the floor of the senate, fresh from the reality of what had just happened and said that he didn’t support it. But a few weeks later, suffering no real consequences, he was back at the MAGA trough chowing down.

Humiliating people that change their minds for the better is probably not the solution. But saying “no consequences, all is forgiven if we can move on” is how you get confederate general statues all over union soil.

At the end of the day, trump supporters seem to be responding to the humanity crushing nature of global capitalism. They fall for the populist rhetoric and then swept up by the personality just assume that everything he said would get fixed is getting fixed now and everyone just doesn’t like him and are making things up. This works until it directly effects them, but even then they think it must be some mistake or oversight.

This goes to show how deep the hunger is for someone to rein in capitalism and support populist reforms. In the absence of any legitimate policies pointing in that direction, this conman is making a fantastic meal out of promising whatever sounds good, delivering nothing, then moving on to the next round of grifting.

Real substantive improvement to this nation will only come from actually improving the material conditions under which Americans labor. And this sounds strange for the wealthiest nation on earth, but many of our countrymen can’t afford healthy food, medicine, shelter, and if they can it’s at the expense of their every waking minute of labor. If you push a population like that, they will eventually wonder what the heck the point is, and they will follow anyone that says they can fix it. Sadly, trump sees this rhetoric as a campaigning tool nothing more, he could care less if people can sell their alfalfa as long as they cheer for him. And the Democratic Party isn’t offering compelling solutions either, they’ve slid far enough right that Biden’s cornerstone IRA and CHIPS acts largely targeted massive companies in a full embrace of trickle down economics. Intel gets to build a new chip foundary eventually, if the legislation isn't gutted, and if intel doesn’t find it more convenient to pocket the cash, blame burdensome regulations, and cancel the project a la Foxconn in Wisconsin.

Both parties are captured by the massive companies, they can only legislate in the thin band the wealthy donors allow them too. Dems offer up solutions in that band that dont make things meaningfully better. MAGA just figured out that no one is following up, so you can say you’ll do popular things and then deliver a massive tax cut to the wealthiest instead.

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[–] uienia@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

He isn't changing his mind. This is part of his strategy and has always been so. This is to please the "but he also invites non-right wing guest" crowd. He is and will remain a right wing influencer who carries a large responsibility for the current situation with his right wing propaganda platform.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yes but this is clearly him trying to walk back some of his alt right views so that he can get back a portion of sane fans.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

And how long do you suppose his "walk back"will last?

[–] Gustephan@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Better late than never, at least. And with Rogan specifically I can actually believe he supported Trump out of stupidity in the first place.

Plus, a middle aged masculine presenting white dude actually admitting that he was wrong/decieved about something is unironically a desperately needed role model rn. As somebody who previously had absolutely no respect for the man, he's earned at least a sliver of my respect.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

How a man can go from supporting Bernie to supporting Trump just has to come down to vibes bullshit. Which is stupid but also informative

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago

Ah so the orange’s actions finally hit Rogan’s bank account ehh

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 60 points 6 days ago

Fuck you, Joe. We all told you that he is a monster, and you helped elect him. Don't pretend you have any morals now.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nah he’s just trying to sound impartial. He was at UFC practically giving Trump a handy.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

Keeping a mind so open that the brain just slides right out.

[–] 18USCode2381@infosec.pub 53 points 6 days ago

Joe Rogan endorsed these anti American policies November 4th, 2024.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/politics/trump-joe-rogan-endorsement.html

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 days ago

Oh Joe, honey, you've been a monster for YEARS.

[–] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 6 days ago

Joe Rogan is an idiot.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

To phrase this carefully: I've been saying that the people behind the scenery, who are actually in charge of this current regime, are going to need a new "face" when the current, orange one dies. Somebody brash, charismatic, well-versed in keeping people entertained, and their attention on himself. Somebody just like, oh, say, Joe Rogan.

I'm not predicting that Rogan will be the next "face" of MAGA, but this move is consistent with what I would expect if he were positioning himself to be it: Hedging his bets, putting a little bit of distance between himself and the administration so as to be outside of the blast radius in case public sentiment turns, but supporting it enough to be a credible successor in case public sentiment holds.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

You cannot turn into monsters if you already are ones.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Are we the baddies" moment.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 29 points 6 days ago

No, I don't think he'll ever get that aware. He's just following the trend to stay relevant.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

What a spineless two-faced coward. He constantly attempts to cover up his fascism by saying non-committal stuff like this.

[–] treno_rosso@feddit.org 24 points 6 days ago

Not like Trump is doing different than he announced he would do. This moron endorsed him ffs.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’ll never get why this moron has such an audience

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Lots of morons in this world.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Joe's stocks went down, hasn't it?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 days ago

... become?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 21 points 6 days ago

no taksies backsies, you are responsible for turning many men into trumpers.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

he is just hedging his bets.

[–] MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Too late. We’re already fucking monsters. Wake the fuck up, bro

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago

Bit late buddy. 👹

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 16 points 6 days ago

You already are

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Yea! It could happen any day now! Any…day.. now…

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Joe Rogan should do 20 years in prison

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

That’s not turning on him. That’s using kid gloves to softly not be seen agreeing with him.

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