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[–] TON618@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We have basicly everything you play games on, so also both of these. But the Steam Deck is absolutely the gigachad, even moreso than my actual gaming pc if you just look at hours used.

If you forced me to get rid of all my devices but one, it'd probably be the Steam Deck that'll be left. And yes this consideration included my gaming pc and smartphone.

The only regret I have about buying the Steam Deck is being so late to the party, having acquired it but 6 months ago.

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

"If something wears out after the warranty expires, here's an independent online store with a full inventory of all replaceable parts, along with the instructions for how to fix them."

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 102 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh, your Stick is drifting? No problem, send it in.

What? You don't want to wait? Sure, in that case here's a manual to easily fix it yourself.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bluetooth controller drifting? Here, you can adjust the deadzone yourself and get realtime feedback to make it easier.

[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

That or you can just buy a controller that doesn't cheap out on the joysticks for less than what any of the main console companies are charging.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So far, I get about 6-8 years out of whatever generation PlayStation controller I get. PS3 controller battery eventually crapped out. PS4 controller got pretty bad stick drift.

Tried an Xbox 360 controller once, it got stick drift after only a year.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

My original 360 controllers are still working in pristine condition.

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Or, get some third party Hall Effect sticks, and have an enjoyable afternoon or evening of tinkering.

No soldering required!

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

~~While technically true, you will lose the capacitive touch functionality of the sticks (the steam deck knows when your thumbs are touching the sticks) unless you desolder the old thumb caps and resolder them on the new sticks.~~

Edit: You're right. It appears newer Hall Effect Sticks for the Steam Deck come with the capacitive caps pre soldered, while the OG Gulikit Sensors required desoldering the original caps and resoldering them on the replacement board. That being said, it was super easy to do, even for my butterfingers that last touched a soldering iron in highschool more than 15 years ago.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No soldering on the switch either though and Hall effect joysticks are a thing for it as well

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[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 85 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Bonus "Fuck Nintendo" points: pirate their games and put them on the Steam Deck.

[–] Lawnman23@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

This is the way.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

They don't say please, they just threaten you with legal ramifications.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Careful with SD; they quickly wear out with lots of small writes. I once fried one as homedir while trying to compile Firefox.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Endurance SD cards made for cctv cameras are the way to go. The Endurance versions are slower and slightly more expensive but they last a lot of writes.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like you got a shitty SD card. High endurance cards are recommended for frequent writing.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can't say for sure, because all are mixing high quality with recycled from the scrapyard quality. The big names only a bit less of the scrapyard.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, this. I got a 1tb micro SD card a few years ago for my hacked Switch (Fuck Nintendo, especially now that they've went after emulation) and finding a LEGITIMATE SD card was very hard, especially since I wanted the high-capacity and they don't just sell those at Wal-Mart. Be VERY careful about buying SD cards folks, lots of scammers out there in the markets now.

EDIT: forgot to add that I received TWO duds, fake SD cards that were NOT 1tb, when trying to get my SD card

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How annoying is that! Where did you get the fakes?

Another question. Is that a separate issue? Like let’s say if you buy from Best Buy:

Sounds like @MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml was saying it’s still a crapshoot even if it’s totally genuine. Like if you buy 10 for 10 different handhelds, maybe only half of them are still working after a couple years but the rest of them last two or three times longer…

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Mine were off of Amazon since I live about 2 hours away from anything other than Walmart. :’)

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago
[–] greybeard@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Each write to a memory location wears out that location slightly degrading it's oxide layer. Flash memories compensate for this by "wear-leveling" which spreads the writes around to different locations to make sure the device wears out evenly.

It will mark bad locations and stop using them. If you run with the device almost full then it cannot effectively wear level and the few open locations will be overused and wear out.

It's not specifically small writes, it's the number of writes to any one location. But of course it's faster to do small writes so you end up with more if they are all small.

Also, there are flash memories optimized for performance that will wear out faster and others that are optimized for longevity that write slower.

Keeping the device cool will extend it's life also.

For longest life, keep the device cool and mostly empty and minimize writes. In critical applications find a device that optimizes lifetime over performance.

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[–] Auzy@aussie.zone 8 points 2 days ago

There is also more diversity on the steam

At this point, 90% of Nintendo is just Mario remakes, and broken joycons

[–] lemmykinks@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Only one small mistake I see here. Assuming Nintendo will say please. The same amount of time it takes them to say please, you'll blink and be in a courtroom facing piracy charges.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have both. So far the only advantage the Switch Lite has is that is lighter and pocketable. The Steam Deck is not just about gaming which it does so well, it has also become my main and only PC outside of work. I have it hocked up to my TV more often than use it in handheld mode.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

I'm very sure you can even run blender on it

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] doomcanoe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not with that attitude! swapon!

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Bro why you gotta remind me of the swap file nightmares with w98 ha

[–] Decq@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the end everything that is storage can also be used as memory. You could print it to paper and scan it back in when the cpu requires it (and write a memory interface to do so).. It would just be terribly slow if you don't use something like DRAM

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

Also there's no such thing as indie switch games. Which limits the market and means that all the really interesting games aren't even on the platform.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I genuinely believe people will look back at this moment and wonder what Nintendo could have done if they weren't too limited in their vision to understand the opportunity they are throwing away here.

Apple isn't popular with younger people the way it used to be, nobody likes Microsoft, everybody hates Android (I do too even though that is my phone os)... there is a major generational opening here for introducing kids to computers in a fun way and becoming "the computer" in the minds of kids.

Especially with the environmental crisis and climate change, people will look back at this and shake there heads and lament that if only Nintendo had copied Valve for that generation of Switches, Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out....

What people still don't understand about computers and people is that whoever introduces kids to computers capable of doing complex work in a fun way will shape the future, because those kids will grow up into adults who create, use and design tools that do cool amazing things. Nintendo needs to wake the fuck up and realize they are selling a handheld computer that is very good at playing games, the world desperately needs another company with vision, good UI design, and the capability to bring hardware and software together into a competent computer experience (Microsoft cannot do this, and undermines all its hardware partners that actually try to do this with their own incompetence).

[–] bruce965@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 days ago (9 children)

I don't think that will happen. I share your vision, but that's not how "Nintendo people" reason.

I have a few Nintendo friends and all of them share two reasons for going Nintendo:

  1. Great games
  2. No tinkering
[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Yep. Old Nintendo you would buy the thing (cartridge/disk/ect) and with no fiddling the game runs. It used to be its best quality. That and most people don't buy them new, they would get games used. It was "cheapish" and you knew you were going to have fun.

Nowadays it's not so black and white. I have long term Nintendo fan friends that for the first time are thinking of skipping this generation. Or in one case waiting a couple of years. But we shall see. More options are good for all us users, so I'm happy we have these two companies vieing for our time/$.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The move to try to limit secondhand physical game sales and requiring the Internet to download the whole game in some instances was part of my decision to skip this generation, if I'm even going to stick with Nintendo at all in the future.

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[–] Susurrus@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That doesn't make much sense to me. The games part okay, kinda, since Nintendo games aren't easily available on the Deck.

But tinkering? I've had a Steam Deck since it first launched, and the only tinkering I've done is because I could, and wanted to. Never because I needed to. All games I've played work perfectly out of the box. Even games marked as 'unsupported'. All of my tinkering was completely unnecessary and done for additional fun, e.g. modding, which is one of the best things about PC gaming, and will most certainly never be a thing on Nintendo's platforms.

As far as I can tell, "Nintendo people" don't really 'reason'. More like, they follow their uninformed preconceptions, and reject anything that doesn't fit with them. My gf has been a Nintendo fan for a long time, and she was convinced other platforms aren't that simple and offer a worse experience. I introduced her to PC gaming, and showed her how the Deck works. Now she's forgotten about her Switch and isn't going to buy Switch 2. It seems to me that all these people need is somebody to show them what gaming really is. Because whatever Nintendo is, it certainly isn't gaming. Just a small glimpse into gaming, maybe.

As for Zelda, Mario or whatever fans - guess they'll have to stick with Nintendo. Personally their games never appealed to me enough to buy a console specifically to play them. I'd like to play the new Zelda games, but I have a lot of other games to finish first. And then again, Switch emulation is incredibly easy. Took me like 10 or 15 minutes to get BotW working last time.

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[–] essteeyou@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Your assertion that Apple, Microsoft, and Android are all unpopular with everyone seems like it might actually be a personal opinion rather than a fact.

I know people who enjoy all of those.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Nintendo could have grown into an entire operating system and computer culture and there would be WAY less needlessly obsolete handheld computers laying around from when the next generation of Switches inveitably comes out…

This isn't and has never been Nintendo's desired goal. Needless obsolete handheld computers laying around is a feature not a bug. Nintendo wants to sell more hardware. If you're able to use your hardware longer, it means lost sales. Nintendo also doesn't want to be a general purpose OS. There's all kinds of things you have to do as a company for a general purpose OS you don't have to do as an embedded system as they are today.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Funny because nintendo buyers are not even part of this conversation LMAO 🤣

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago (8 children)

I just wish the Deck was a bit lighter.

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

The mod abilityof the deck and the openness is a killer feature of the deck. It's an excellent device.

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