i literally JUST had to block lemmy.ml because of unreasonable tankie bullshit like this. insufferably deluded people.
this post was submitted on 08 Apr 2025
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They should be cheering for the US any day now.
Holy shit you're right lol. Let's see how it plays out.
it's been so weird watching certain tankies twist themselves into pretzels trying to wrangle how 47 is good actually because he's aligned with russia, what a pleasant surprise
Tankies have this weird dance where they have to keep up the normal US bad thing but also piss on people's legs about Trump being no worse or better than Biden because Trump continuing to be in power hurts Westerners.
I almost think Trump could get couped by Communists tomorrow and tankies would find a way to hate it.
Most of us here are leftists of some shade, we roughly agree on theory. The tankie problem is one of implementation. It's delusional either in its estimation of the percentage of people willing and able to join the movement, or in its faith that the vanguard state totally won't turn into a dictatorship this time. I think most people here could be convinced to join the movement they're pushing if the movement was supported by a practical plan of implementation. Right now it's supported either by dreams and wishes, or 90+% of the population being shipped to the gulags
Well it's that, and a theory is a theory. You have a theory, you test it's hypothesis. If instead of a free classless stateless society you keep ending up with authoritarian states. You've invalidated your hypothesis. Disproven your theory, and need to change it. If you cling to the same old theory regardless of it working or not. Then it's not a theory, but a religion.
I like a quote from the German left party. Said: "Well a true democratic communism hasn't really had the chance to prove itself yet" - which got me to think. Maybe the democratic majority just doesn't want communism. Now why is that? I think because almost all the opinions and information they are being barraged with are coming from capitalist owned news or because most people need to have this illusion that their work or whatever they are doing will eventually make them be better off than their neighbors.
In capitalism, you have a bunch of psychopaths scrambling to the top, tearing each other down in the process. It's horrible, and many people suffer.
In communism, you have only a handful of psychopaths trying to scramble to the top. They get there unhindered. It's horrible, and many people suffer.
I think the problem isn't the system, it's the psychopaths.
In a sense, the best system is the one which best keeps psychopaths from the top.
We will never get rid of psychopaths. Any system that doesn't account for them is the problem. Better systems don't consolidate power in ways desirable and easily exploited by psychopaths. Any system that doesn't have real safeguards is the problem.
Turns out to get closer to what most people find ideal we'd... have to all......... agree... on stuff. Hard to make that happen when ideals are like a religion. Seems like a tool oligarchs would find useful.
cm0002 and whining about imaginary tankies all day name a better combo
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