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[–] AGM@lemmy.ca 81 points 4 days ago

Totally support that, and it's a great time for it as Canada's under threat and many Canadians are boycotting US media products.

Personally, since cutting off US media and switching to CBC, I've really enjoyed a lot of Canadian content and I've found myself more appreciative and interested in Canadian cultural products overall.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Canada needs a strong public broadcaster. Conservatives hate the CBC because it isn't owned by a foreign billionaire and doesn't spew extremist right wing propaganda.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The past few years the CBC has been leaning harder right but I think that they may have been trying to butter up the conservatives because of the, then, impending conservative win. There has been a lot of anti-electric car and anti-heat pump pieces in the past 2 years.

[–] Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

I don't think they are anti electric calls... I think they just honestly report the facts, they will state the electric cars really do struggle in our winters. Battery's runout and the charging grid isn't there yet, they definately don't say anything that's "anti ev" but they will state the truth: if you're buying a new car TODAY, depending on your driving habits, an EV in Canada, just isn't really viable ATM, give it 5 years

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 60 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"When we compare ourselves to the U.K., France or Germany, we see that our public broadcaster is underfunded," Carney said in French during a campaign stop in Montreal. "That has to change."

"We expect that in the coming years, we will continue to increase that funding until it can be compared to that provided by other public broadcasters."

Carney also said funding of the CBC and Radio-Canada would be made statutory, meaning any changes would have to be approved by Parliament, not just the government's cabinet.

"Canadians themselves and their entire Parliament must decide on the future of Radio-Canada/CBC β€” not ideologues," he said.

Wow, just wow. There's more, read the article.

[–] HonoredMule@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 days ago (6 children)

It's dangerous to like a leader as much as I like this guy. There's much in his world view that inspires ambivalence. But then every actual move is just so on point that it's hard to ignore this nagging doubt -- because it's just too good to be true.

Like what's the absolute worst thing he's done so far? In my book it was scrapping the carbon tax; it was defusing something that could cost the election, in a way that can even be easily reverted, at a time when it's about the least important short-term concern.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

His policy proposals are acceptable but in this day and age that is not how elections are won, especially with misinformation being pumped directly into our veins.

Elections are won on vibes and he comes across as calm and rational in a time when Canadians are desperate for that energy (with an agent of chaos ie. Trump breathing down our collective necks).

If we're being completely real, the liberals were getting decimated in this election regardless of who they put forth if not for Trump's aggressive threats towards Canada's sovereignty and economy.

Yeah, that's the hilarious thing. If Trump really wanted Canada under his thumb all he'd have to do was literally nothing. If he'd just shut up about Canada and waited then we'd have elected a right-wing stooge who would've sold us out for a nickel.

People keep trying to justify Trump's actions as some kind of convoluted master plan (either his own or Putin's) but really, he's just an idiot, and the only reason why he's been successful is because he lives in a nation of craven cowards who refuse to stand up to him.

[–] HonoredMule@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm going to reiterate a prediction I first made about 5 months ago, that Poilievre was going to win at least a minority but it would actually be very tight. He campaigned hard for 2 years off-season while receiving little to no journalistic scrutiny -- just propaganda from the right-wing rags. I always believed his lead would be heavily eroded when the general public started paying attention to him, rather than just his base built on grievance politics.

I never could have dared hope I'd be this wrong. But the factors I identified are still in play, and the difference largely amounts to strong circumstantial reinforcements. I.e. the new elements are the undercutting of his fake issues and Dumpster showing us what not to do so much more clearly (understandably to a wide audience) than I anticipated.


Having serious stakes really amps up how tired many of us actually are with politicians running on vibes. I don't think it's accurate to call Carney's behavior vibes when it's marked by things like answering questions and fulfilling promises. Vibes are a big part of what's getting rejected so hard with both Poilievre and to a lesser but still significant extent Singh. And it's because this time we can't afford to just play the usual "it's time for something else" whack-a-mole.

At this point I wouldn't reduce anyone's views and choices to being vibes based. Even the really bad ones are rooted in deeply held ideology and deliberate movements to radicalize people by appealing to/infiltrating those ideologies.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The stakes in Canada are certainly higher than in the US where many do not know or are just now learning what a tariff is.

Perhaps this election is less vibes based due to those high stakes but I do feel Carney is the right vibe, or at least the one Canadians are looking for, even if it is not intentional and just happens to be who he is.

He is in many ways the antithesis to Trump, in terms of being relatively dry and matter of fact, which is the type of leader Canadians are looking to rally around.

I appreciate your insights. Far right wolf-in-sheeps-clothing conservatives have seen success globally by presenting themselves as reformists and it seemed like Canada was about to go down the same path.

Perhaps it wouldn't have played out that way once Poilievre's lack of substance received broader scrutinity but Trudeau's and the Liberal party's approval rating just a few months ago would suggest otherwise. Poilievre, Jenni Byrne and the rest of the conservative party likely assumed this would be a cakewalk.

Credit to Trudeau for realizing people were tired of him and Canada for having a system where a new leader could be voted in by the party before an election was called, so that it didn't turn into the shitshow that was the Biden-Harris handoff.

[–] HonoredMule@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don't know if I'd say the stakes are higher. Poilievre could win and I'd still rather be here than the states (for as long as here still isn't). πŸ˜›

For vibes, I look more to Charlie Angus. And it's probably for the best that he can reflect what's in our hearts and give us that catharsis, without being in a position to really enflame tensions. There's already a considerable difference between what I'd want to say and do and what my smarter more measured, dispassionate self would say and do. And then Carney finds a stance and tone that's close to my latter option, but I must begrudgingly admit is even better.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

I know right? I have to fight myself to keep my skepticism healthy.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

I think everyone knows how great the BBC is. But, not everyone knows just how big and important it is. It is the largest broadcast news organization in the world. It has more than 5500 journalists and 50 foreign news bureaus. Canada shouldn't compete with the BBC, but it should at least be BBC-like within its own borders.

Other national broadcasters are also great. Look at Australia's Triple J for example. Not only does it expose young Australians to Australian music they wouldn't otherwise hear on commercial radio, it also has science programs aimed at children and young adults. I love Dr. Karl's stuff, even though I'm definitely not in the target demographic (being non-Australian and old).

IMO, the statutory funding isn't enough either. It's a step in the right direction. But, if all it takes is parliament voting, then it's vulnerable to the next PC majority. If it's made independent enough, that should also help it avoid accusations of being a government mouthpiece.

[–] twopi@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Seems to be mid 20th-century liberal with national projects.

Nice.

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 days ago

Now more than ever I see the value on the CBC.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My local media just publish verbatim releases from police and corporations.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Check and see if it's owned by Postmedia. Even if not, a lot of news media are guilty of being lazy and just pushing PR without giving it a critical look.... sometimes without even really reading over it....

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody had to tell me to stop reading a conservative wank sheet.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

K, all I'm saying is that a large number of small local media outlets are being bought out by American owned conglomerates. No need to live up your name. :(

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Not sure how I hurt your feelings. Have a hug.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Tbh. Wasn't you. Been delicate the last few days.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Thanks Fam! Could definitely use it....

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Pollivere wants to get rid of CBC

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The "free market" should determine what the news is! /s

Looking at the all the outlets owned by billionaires. They also don't report on wealth inequality. Isn't that a weird coincidence?

[–] phantomfigure@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago

Yep. Just look at the globe and mail. Today they published a hit piece fomenting Alberta separatism. They are owned by the Thomson family. The richest family in Canada. Surprise surprise.

β€œWhy do we need to tell people what they need to hear? Why can’t we just tell them what they want to hear?”

-Ron Burgundy

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sweet! Tax cuts benefiting the wealthy and new spending!

Joking aside: juicing CBC's mandate to cover local news is great. There are strong arguments that it should stop selling ads for some services (like podcasts and local news) so small producers have a shot at getting started. Hopefully that'll be included in the mandate change.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure if everyone knows this, but commercial weather forecasters get their weather information from Environment Canada, the American NOAA, and so on. Very few have their own weather satellites etc. The Environment Canada weather forecasts are pretty barebones, but they're the kind that are useful for pilots, shipping, etc. The Weather Network, Weather Channel, AccuWeather, all take that information and build on it for fancier and more user-friendly weather reports.

I think it would be great if the CBC could have a basic news wire service that commercial news services could build on. The local bureaus that Carney is recommending don't have to be full setups with reporters doing live to-camera pieces. They could be more like Thomson Reuters dispatches (a Canadian company btw). That would make the money go farther, and would provide a barebones framework for the more detailed reporting that say City or CTV wanted to do.

Anyhow, it's great that the current PM (and likely future PM) is a guy who lived and worked in London for a while, and understands how great the BBC is.

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

The Environment Canada weather forecasts are pretty barebones

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that. I actually really like how Environment Canada presents their forecasts. They have a text description for each day, which I like because it shows how much data they actually have about the forecast for that day. Also, no ads and no bullshit on their website.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have decided to do my part and pay the $6 a month rather than just creating new email addresses when there is news I want to see or using my pihole to avoid ads.

[–] RepulsiveChicken270@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Same here! Can’t say I watch a ton on gen (other than local news which was free anyway) but access to CBC news network is nice. And have been getting back into 22 minutes!

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

I have been watching several CBC shows, without ads via my pi-hole, I would watch CBC news via youtube whenever I wanted to and could because CBCNN is not always streaming but now that I am not paying for youtube and trying to get off of youtube, first by watching less US stuff. Seeing as how I got a refund for my year worth of youtube, and several other US service providers, I can afford the $6 a month to watch CBCNN ad free on the CBC app.

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