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Summary

Fox News reporter Chad Pergram challenged Speaker Mike Johnson for blaming Democrats for a potential government shutdown over funding bill opposition.

After Johnson claimed Democrats would be "responsible for every troop who misses a paycheck" if they reject his "clean CR," Pergram pointed out this implies Republicans lack sufficient votes.

Johnson insisted "we'll have the votes" despite reports that House Republicans plan to vote against the bill, claiming Democrats should "do the responsible thing."

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[–] ricecooker@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 hour ago

Let's not forget the Republican years where they all voted against anything that Obama or Biden tried to pass.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

"It's the Democrats' fault that we can't effectively govern!"

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 55 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The only reason that Fox News is pushing back against the Republicans is because their stocks are going down.

Who would have thought that greed after all can be used for good at least once?

[–] Letsdothisok@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Greedisgood

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 13 points 16 hours ago

they also dont want to lose thier own audience to the other propaganda channels.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 31 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Cons have the majority. If it doesn't pass, it means they don't have the votes. Simple. No matter what the Speaker says.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, but they're making it sound like it's the Democrat's fault of course.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

Exactly. They have the majority in the House and the Senate. They have all the votes they need to pass anything they want without a single Democratic vote, so how is it the Dems fault if the Reps cant even get their own votes in line?

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 315 points 1 day ago (5 children)

We did it! We pushed the Overton Window so far to the right that Fox News became woke!

[–] el_muerte@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

That already happened back in 2020 when Fox called the election for Biden. MAGATs melted down, called Fox "radical leftists" and vowed to give their views to even more regressive outlets.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What is the political-lean equivalent of integer overflow?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 23 hours ago

"Falling out of the overton window, russian oligarch style"

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 56 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] grissino@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Which is as true a theory as The Big Bang Theory. And no, I do not mean that sarcastically.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah, integer overflow is a real thing that happens.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That's why I use chars no one ever talks about char overflows.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 hours ago

No app with more than 255 of anything should exist anyway.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

To be fair, it's a Murdoch property as is the Wall Street Journal... and the WSJ is pissed because Trump is fucking up the economy.

I honestly am a little surprised there hasn't been more pushback from FOX News just yet, because WSJ is basically done with this shit. But there are cracks showing in FOX News coverage as well.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Check this shit out, Fox posted this on fb when Bill Burr said that stuff about how we should treat "differently affluent" people (that's my new euphemism, like it?)

I thought it seemed weirdly anti-oligarchy for them and the comments were almost entirely pro-Burr. Interesting times we live in for sure

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fox learned during his first term that if they push too hard their viewers just go to Newsmax instead.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 16 points 22 hours ago

That's what's so scary about this beast Murdoch and co have created. They thought they could pump out fake news for decades and people would believe whatever they wanted, allowing them to control the narrative.

It worked for a while, but then others realized how gullible the Fox News crowd was - and saw they could go even further into the crazy. Fox News now is basically in a spot where they have no choice but to push crazier shit than they actually want to. If they say the 2020 election wasn't stolen, their viewers jump ship to someone who will tell them that it was.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

many of the young viewers abandoed it for oan/newsmax and right wing grifters. Its the milleneals and older that still is on fox.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 23 hours ago

I'd say Trump is about to learn what happens when you fuck with the money, but he's literally incapable of learning.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I'm so proud of us. We're all grown up and fascist. Brings a single tear to my eye, ya know, bcz I'm not some woke bleeding heart liberal.

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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 48 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I'll be shocked to hell if they can't get some Democrats to vote for this. The party is full of little worms willing to capitulate to fascism.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Of course. Fetterman is the new Manchin.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 21 hours ago

Or it'll pass with a large majority of dems voting for it while gop only loses the tea party ones who vote against everything

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago

This isn't even turnabout. The Democrats did not have enough seats to pass it themselves and attempted to negotiate. The Republicans have tried nothing, abused the government, and are demanding the Democrats save them from themselves.

To the Democrats, the Republicans have the petard lit, don't let them hoist you instead of themselves.

[–] pzzzt@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (3 children)

"Every troop missing a paycheck"? Big coming from the side stealing money from starving people.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

As if the Republicans haven't caused many government workers to miss many paychecks. Even WITHOUT their current crimes against humanity they'd still have no ground to stand on with this argument.

It's basically a serial killer being shocked that someone killed one person.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

They love to get rid of health care for the troops, so more performative bullshit

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

and reducing the budget of defense/military by 8% every year.

[–] civil_drive@sh.itjust.works 40 points 23 hours ago

They always blame the dems no matter what because Fox repeats it and their base believes it. Fox pointing out that the republicans have the majority and still can’t govern could help a lot of the brainwashed wake up a bit. I won’t hold my breath but this is better than Fox also blaming the democrats for this.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I get confused by the GOP message these days. It sounds like they are saying…

A) Trump is the smartest man to ever live and genius. Smartest man ever to be President by far.

B) the Dems are tricking us into not doing well and we can’t figure out how to out smart them.

Can both be true?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 134 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The enemy is both strong and weak. Fascism 101.

[–] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Well. I don’t know about weak, but I have a strong feeling that in 3 months I will be broke(out of money).

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

"We refused to negotiate with them and filled the CR with Republican amendments, but if Democrats and 2 Republicans don't vote for it then the shutdown is the Democrats fault!"

If a human being can be that dishonest and still convince himself he's a good person, maybe our species never had much of a chance.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

but if ~~Democrats~~ and 2 Republicans. Republicans have the majority. This has absolutely nothing to do with Democrats.

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[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 44 points 1 day ago

Dude never negotiates with Dems and now comes with a straight face complaining the minority party won’t vote with him.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I will be so deeply disappointed if House Dems give Johnson a lifeline on this.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

they did for kevin mcCARTHY who turn around and backstabbed them, they dint rescue him when he got ousted.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lmfao Johnson is such an unbelievably shitty little spineless fascist cunt.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 2 points 54 minutes ago

He's an absolute gormless little germ.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

also overcompensating that hes in the closet too.

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[–] sittinonatoilet@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Typical DEI hire asking those types of questions!

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Breaking News.......

FOX News has just terminated Chad Pergram

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