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Ontario Premier Doug Ford announced a 25% surcharge on electricity exports to 1.5 million Americans in Minnesota, New York, and Michigan, effective Monday, in response to Trump's trade war.

The measure will generate CA$300,000-400,000 daily to support Ontario workers and businesses, adding about CA$100 monthly to affected American bills.

Ford threatened further increases or complete shutoff if the US escalates, despite Trump's one-month tariff reprieve.

This action supplements Canada's CA$30 billion in federal retaliatory tariffs on various American products.

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

American GDP per capita: $85,000

Canadian GDP per capita: $55,000

American Natural Resources per capita: $150,000

Canadian Natural Resources per capita: $1.1 million

And America thinks that they have been getting taken advantage of?

Quite frankly it's about damn time that Canada started moving more high value processing in-house. America has been treating us as a resource colony to siphon wealth from forever.

Time to sign trade deals with absolutely everyone else who will sign them and see how America likes it when their cheap resources start flowing elsewhere. They can fuck right off if they think they'll win a trade war.

[–] Retropunk64@lemmy.ml 14 points 23 hours ago

Krasnov and his cronies made up the lies about being taken advantage of to hide their true motives, driven purely by imperialism. Its a smoke cover.

[–] courageousstep@lemm.ee 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Good. We Americans need to learn the lesson that, in fact, we are not, have never been, and cannot be individualists. We are dependent on our neighbors: personally, nationally, and internationally.

We also need to learn that we cannot sustain ourselves by constantly taking: taking from each other, taking from nature, and taking from the future generations. We have become a nation of consumers, not citizens, and that is morally wrong. We expect to take with no consequences, and that’s just not how Earth works.

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

Very well said.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 25 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I just can’t believe that I actually agree with something Ford is doing.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

This is about the only type of thing that the Fords are actually good at - you can give him credit for it without shame.

[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 9 points 17 hours ago

And he said if the US retaliated, he will raise it again or full on shut off power if it continues.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hopefully, this will force Krasnov Trump to put in more effort to stop americans smuggling drugs and guns into Canada.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago

Yep, I am all for Canada calling a national emergency on all the illegal guns and drugs flowing from the US into Canada. And Canada imposing tarrifs on the US until the US stops the flow of illegal guns into Canada and manages their border. Most of our gun crime is done by illegal US guns.

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Please cut the electricity off all together. -An American

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Should have shut it off entirely

[–] k_rol@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was thinking the same at first but it might be best to make them give us more money so we can pay for what they are causing.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago

This also provides room for further escalation. You don't want to play every card at once just cause it makes a big splash.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 2 points 17 hours ago

Or just raise the export tariff on electricity by 1% a day. They’ll shut if off themselves when they realize they can’t afford it at a 300% markup.

[–] m8052@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Hello Canadians,

Is this actually the brother of the mayor of Toronto that was so high he almost started a fight in the council chamber ?

Ho and was called Canadian Trump ?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

Yes. You've fucked up so hard with electing Trump than even Canuck Trump is against you.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 hours ago

Rob Ford was the maga major, who was also recorded by his crack dealer. Yes, they were brothers (Rob passed away years ago.)

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago
[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -2 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

New York is a blue state... Not sure how I feel about this. If they had given New York a pass, it may have been more effective.

[–] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 1 points 26 minutes ago

Maybe consider how far to the center/right democrats actually are and let that inform your decision. Is it possible a blue state recently convened a "safety summit" for their corporate overlords in the wake of a mostly positively-received act of self defense in their state? Pass revoked.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 hours ago

The world is not responsible for fixing US politics.

The goal is not to influence red vs blue but to show both our people and yours that we can fight back.

Trump is President in New York just as much as he is President in Kentucky. And as long as New York has not seceded, that will not change, and even if it did, it's not a free ticket to even having trade relations with the rest of the world.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 7 points 11 hours ago

The Canadians are apparently done separating the blues from the reds. Put them all in the dryer and maybe they will start to care about their politics again.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago

Most economically relevant states are blue, especially on the border.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is Canadian guy fierie the new pm?

[–] TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck no. He's the premier of Ontario

Mark Carney is the new PM

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

Ford is the Premier (Governor) of the Ontario province (state), which is like NYS And W. DC put together (and is across the pond from Rochester.) He is considered a dumpie leader, with no real accomplishments, and a silly approach to policy (let's make sure that beer is affordable)- but generally an improvement on the previous corrupt/spend-thrift centrist party (even though they got some very good things done.)