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At the first Trump cabinet meeting, he stated his intentions clearly. He restated blatant lies and disinformation, and he won't really be questioned on it from the press or from any US politicians. The US is the enemy of Canada and should be understood as such. Take heed of his treatment of Ukraine - when he noted that they would lose the war without US help - and consider what he will propose when he uses the same argument on us. He makes it very clear in the video.

And very carefully consider which of our political leaders will stand up to Trump when he makes the argument that we need American military in our country to protect us.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Heck they're a threat to US sovereignty

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So step up the game already, Canada. Become a threat to US Sovereignty. Make a real offer for the blue states to join and be willing to protect them with military force when Trump retaliates. Enact an American refugee program to bring the best and the brightest across your borders. Get Newsom, Whitmer, Pritzker and Walz to the table and start making real deals.

Because as a Californian, I'd rather be a Canadian on the side of democracy and justice than an American on the side of fascism.

[–] markpaskal@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

We don't want to annex part of the US. We don't want to import more conservative voters from the US. We just want to be left alone and our responses are going to be symmetrical in keeping with that unfortunately.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I live in Illinois please make me Canadian I'll grow weed for you guys we have really good soil

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We don't really have a military.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

There is only one cou try in the world who would have a chance of standing up to America in conventional warfare, and it definitely isn't Canada. I don't think #2 would win either, but they have a chance.

[–] rabber@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

You underestimate Canadian geographic advantage I think. I would love to see America try to occupy the rockies in the winter and I hope they wear bodycams when that happens so we can laugh after the fact

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 3 points 15 hours ago

You can't hide an army in the rockies. You couldn't even really hide them in the Shield. But if there's an invasion I expect there will be a holding withdrawal and then a lot of guerilla groups with well-trained leaders will suddenly appear.

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[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

We're definitely looking at insurgent warfare. Asymmetric as possible.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

Something in the neighborhood of ΒΌ of Canadians has a registered firearm. That's pretty close to 10 million folks. With our long-standing hunting culture, if even half the people with a firearm decided to join an insurgency effort, and a relatively small amount of the rest of folk run support? That's gonna be a bad fucking time for the US.

Remember kids, until Canadians teamed up with the Polish, it was a Geneva Checklist. And we've already burnt the Whitehouse down twice.....

[–] Devanismyname@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You'd need part of your military to turn on him which likely won't happen. Our military isn't even remotely capable of standing up to yours.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Problem is, CA and TX are both littered with bases and a shitload of stuff that goes boom, similar with other red and blue states. Seceding means war between states that have the economy and war fighting capability to beat whole countries on their own, so our only hope would be officers following their oath to enemies foreign AND domestic

[–] grey_maniac@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago

That's probably some of our best bet. The more they fight themselves, the less they'll be able to fight us.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US is now a threat to the entire world.

[–] from_D4rkness@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now? I think it has become a bigger threat for sure, but the US has been a straight up villain to the world before this.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not to every country in the world. Even Russia and North Korea would be well advised not to trust the US.

And not that egregiously as far as upcoming damages to the environment are concerned - which also affect the entire planet.

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[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (17 children)

I'm seriously mentally preparing for an armed conflict.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That is a beautiful piece of hardware, with kickass livery!! Gives me a patriotic quarter chub.

I want my C7 decked out like this.

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[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's already started, It just isn't traditional war. It will be the same as how they took the states... through disinfo and pushing their stooges into power. (Pierre Polievere etc)

We are fighting a war against bullshit.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Current polls suggest Poilievre is one of the first casualties of Trump's tariff threats. Which is hilarious.

[–] Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

The only good thing he has done.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah look up the Mar A Lago Accord: https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/investing/2025/02/25/what-a-mar-a-lago-accord-would-mean-for-the-us-dollar/

Trump wants to annex us in any way he can - economic annexation is easiest. These are serious discussions in the White House, and we need to take them seriously too.

And I can guaran-fucking-tee that Poilievre will drive straight into a US economic annexation, such as described at the link above. He will go along as the US drives us into deeper economic subjugation and dependence.

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We are Ukraine in 2013 right now.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago

Yeah, my wife and I reached the same acceptance. We spent the last month or so thinking we were overthinking it all. Now we've realized that it may happen, and we're resolved to stay and do what we can. The kids will go overseas with their grandparents. Between all of them they speak three languages, they'll be fine. We accept that we're likely to be killed but we have to do it for our kids. It's a strange journey but now we can get on with regular life, knowing we have a plan. It took her a bit more time but we both got there eventually.

We're also resolved to protest and push back. I've never really gone to a protest but this is existential.

If there's someone in your life that is on the wrong side of this, and they are worth the effort, come to them carefully and listen. Don't just attack them, as they will dig in their heels. Instead, make sure to ask them why THEY think you disagree with them, and why THEY think you believe what you do. Take the time to talk to them. Don't get mired in policy. And think carefully about how you will answer the above questions when they turn it around on you.

If they are strangers and you don't want to spend the effort, then don't waste your time. Give them no benefit of the doubt, nor any assumption of good faith. They will surely not extend those to you. Ignore them. The sooner you realize they are unfortunately your enemy, the easier it will be.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca -5 points 12 hours ago

Definitely the wrong response is to triple down on Ukraine, including throwing out the idea of sending soldiers.

Normalize relations with reset of world. US only protects Canada from Russia because Canada lets the US tell us who our enemies are. If Russia is not our chosen/fabricated enemy, then NORAD is Canada protecting the US.

The lies that Canada support for US consumers/industry is a cost to the US, or that it is responsible for fentanyl, should result in more public anger about liars, and breaking off relations with liars, instead of correcting facts as if that will make a difference.

Export tariffs on energy to make Canadian energy after tariffs the same price as WTI, or US electricity alternatives is crucial, even if auto tariffs are not reciprocated. FFS, make sure Canada's next harvest is sold to China or elsewhere undercutting US agriculture. The most disgusting reaction in all of this is no talks with China on anything.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There are still dipshits saying "it's just hot air" gaslighting me on a daily basis. But yes we are the next Ukraine right now, it's a mirror image. But instead of Russia's dog shit economy, horde of orcs, and soviet weapons, it's the United Fucking States. We are completely fucked if we don't become pro active. In my opinion an American civil war is the only hope for our survival. And we should be intervening. A large group of armed Canadians should be going into the US when their civil war starts and backing up the real Americans and helping them fight against the fascist traitors. If we just sit here with our thumbs up our asses then Trump has a chance to solidify his power, and then we have no choice but to get fucked.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Right path for Canada is certainly to encourage State secession, offering them provincehood if they wish. But it is also to immediately disassociate with US empire and its enemies list. We need alternate foreign investment and trade partners inclusive of the US's enemies list. Nuclear protection from North Korea if they are the only ones with balls that are cheap enough to buy protection from.

Instead, our negotiators are just begging to enslave us into supporting US war on China.

[–] WorkshopBubby@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 hours ago

I don't think state secession is the goal imo. I think the solution here is to finish off what was started with the first american civil war, but this time don't let any of the confederate traitors survive to breed a new generation of racist pieces of fucking human garbage. Drive every single magat into the ocean for good. Then the survivors can pick up the pieces of their own country and start the rebuilding process.

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

We're a threat to the entire planet currently and even a good portion of us are begging for the madness to end. Invade us, seriously, someone put an end to it.

[–] Reannlegge@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Trump can piss right the F off! They could not win a war against us.

  1. All our measurements are in metric they would just be lost.
  2. We will cut off their power and the average US citizen will get mad because we give them so much electricity, at least the northern states.
  3. We will cut off the oil tap and their military vehicles will not be able to run. At least until they reformat their refiners for their oil, leading to more power outs.
  4. Their economy will just crash because of power outages. Leading to the people who would retrofit the refiners demanding for more money, that the oil companies do not have on hand.
  5. The people will rise up in the US because of the massive and very fast inflation, Trump will be remembered as the president who destroyed the US in a mater of a few months of taking office.

I do not want to say go a head and try but the US loses either way, I also understand that there are military people way smarter than me who have battle plans drawn up. I did not know that these plans are kept up to date as well.

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