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Using firefox but concerned now

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Edit 2/28: It seems there is no general consensus if we should switch and/or to what.

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[–] sunred@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 minutes ago

Currently on Firefox with Betterfox and Lepton. I might change it to Librewolf as a base for its better defaults. Ungoogled Chromium flatpak when I need a Chromium browser. Fennec on GrapheneOS for its extension support even if it might not be as secure compared to Vanadium.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I use FireDragon, because it's the only browser I could find that has a vertical tab-bar that collapses. Supposedly Zen does it, too, but I couldn't get it to work.

FireDragon also has a toolbar to the side with a notepad and other neat stuff. I haven't used that yet, but it could be cool.

[–] Patrik@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Fennec on mobile, haven't gotten around to replacing FF on Desktop yet.

[–] geolaw@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 10 hours ago

Should we also be comparing rendering engines?

[–] Xed@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I used to use variations of Firefox but I got tired of websites not being compatible so sometimes I use chrome 🤷

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve never had that happen. What sort of websites

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Poorly-designed ones.

[–] TheChickenOfDoom@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Librewolf, it's Firefox but without the evil.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I fail to understand the question mark at the end of your sentence.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

It's a casual English language construction of the 90s. It's equivalent to "FF is evil?" And implies that the writer believes that it didn't used to be.

[–] Xanza@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been using Zen for the past couple days and it's absolutely spectacular. I really really been enjoying it.

It claims to be a fork of Firefox but there's still Firefox under the hood and you can tell. But I find that it runs significantly faster than Firefox standard. So who knows. The author seems to be making it as ambiguous as possible so I would think that it's a soft fork that's basically stock Firefox with a few minor changes and a new look.

[–] InvisibleRasta@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] InvisibleRasta@lemmy.ml 1 points 17 hours ago

Waterfox is based on esr, so quite outdated. Just use librewolf and some css. You have firefox-one that will make it look pretty and similar to zen. Zen is no good if you care about privacy.

[–] r0shd@lemmy.ml 0 points 12 hours ago
[–] kittenroar@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago

Still using Firefox. They mean well. Wish I could say the same of chrome.

[–] jadsel@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have found Mozilla's sync across devices handy, but now I'm in the process of moving over to using Vanadium on my GrapheneOS phone and FireDragon on desktop.

FireDragon started out as a Librewolf fork, but is more recently based on Floorp. They are still keeping in sync with Librewolf's privacy enhancements, with some of their own thrown in. I like that the default search engine is Garuda's instance of Searx, with Whoogle as another option if you don't want to self host. FireDragon will also sync your Firefox account off Garuda's server instance if you like (which would be more useful if I weren't going with a Chromium fork on mobile). The Garuda project is certainly looking more trustworthy than Mozilla these days.

[–] SwordInStone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

unholy sentence (1st of second paragraph)

[–] jadsel@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Gotta say, you have a point. Too lost in the privacy sauce to really notice it earlier. ;)

Reminds me of gink

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Vivaldi because:

If i had to choose something fully floss i would go with librewolf.

[–] StanislavP@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Switched to Librewolf on Linux and Ironwolf on Android. But looking forward to Ladybird!

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[–] icogniito@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Zen, absolutely love the workflow and the fact that it is not chromium based.

Waiting excitedly for ladybird, it is already very impressive but still years left until it is daily drive able

[–] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

Basically a firefox skin, although they have a VPN as a sponsor, did somebody did a thorough check on that browser?

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[–] hubobes@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Firefox, while I dislike their new FAQ and TOS I build it from source and the TOS does not apply.

I wish they would make Firefox Sync a self hostable product that they also host for you for like 5 bucks a month. I would pay for it (or any other way to directly give money to FX instead of Mozilla) like I do for Bitwarden.

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[–] nycki@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

I still use firefox despite their questionable leadership, for one major reason: it prevents Google from setting whatever web standards they want. Sites that aren't standards compliant will usually still work in Chromium-based browsers, but they will break in Firefox, and then I can report the bugs.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Still Firefox. Every time Mozilla does anything the entire privacy community goes insane. The terms of use they published seem entirely benign, and the only thing anyone can actually point to is the "direction being worrisome". Well, I'll get worried when they update the terms to be actually onerous. Everything even possibly annoying can be disabled, and it's still the only browser engine offering competition against Chrome ruling the web.

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[–] trk@aussie.zone 16 points 1 day ago

Firefox. And Thunderbird. And donate to Mozilla.

Don't really see the point in using a fork that, by the time you boil it down, just takes Firefox's work and then releases it later.

I want a Google and Apple alternative and I'd rather support it at the top of the chain.

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