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[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not senseless and it's not capitulation, it's collaboration and it makes perfect sense to him, since he is doing it intentionally. Krasnov is a traitor to the USA and the entire Western world.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

I'm assuming you mean this Krasnov.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a betrayal of Ukraine, Europe, NATO, the western world and America.

[–] bigFab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

To blame the traditional double standards of american politics on one man or another is a hell of a getaway!

[–] krebssteven@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

He is a traitor by definition.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He is simply doing whatever will make him the most money, same as always. Musk, Zuckerberg etc who are in boot-step with Trump are doing the same. Capitalism moment.

[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Or it could be payment for getting him into power. Cheaper for Putin to convince swinging US voters online and get Trump into office, than sending more Russian’s to the grinder?

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The United States is a second world country.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

How dare you! We are third world at best! And looking at creating fourth and fifth as well.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Depends where. The red run welfare states are definitely 3rd World.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not necessarily terrible deal making, we might not be privy to what Putin has offered to trump personally in return. Maybe a dacha here, or a casino in Crimea?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, what he promised him is exactly what we see: $500B in rare earths, every year. Trump's always been a terrible dealer, and this is no exception: he doesn't do back-and-forth, he just tosses his entire hand on the table and says "here's what I want", then bullies you into accepting. If you don't, he'll either harass you, or back out saying YOU sabotaged the deal because you didn't give him what he wanted immediately.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

I accept that the dirty rock I was thinking about voting for would have made a bad deal too by asking for nothing. I admit it. But every once in the entire history of a people, there comes someone who is more idiotic than a dumb rock could ever wish it could have. That's us right there. Best country in the world.... Worst asshole president a country could ever have. We're at 3 years and 10 months to go.

[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago

There is no deal. No one knows what the deal is because the deal doesn't exist. Wait until there is a deal, learn of the details, and judge the deal on its merits.