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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'd just not show up to work.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Lol what a jackass

[–] DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

2026: Tesla stops manufacturing cars and pivots to humanoid robotics, with Ai enabled control and dedicated starlink network.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

We're gonna be killing robots in the streets by the end of the decade.

[–] transgendervegan666@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 hours ago

gods i fucking hate it here

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The NIH used to have an electric outlet with a large sign saying EV charging:D Spending 60 hours on a 1KW trickle charge on the guvmint's dime is awesome!

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

1.3kW so you're still getting a decent bit of charging done

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

This will definitely lower the price of eggs.

This feels more damn petty than Regan taking solar panels off the Whitehouse. Like these chargers were already installed, they weren't costing a damn thing, and now they're going to spend money to have perfectly good infrastructure sit unused. Fucking morons.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Don't worry, he'll just give Musk another $50 million government contract to redo them. And by "redo", I mean turn them back on.

[–] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Can he just fucking... disappear? Just take all that money you've stolen from contractors, kompromat from Russia, and bribes from Saudi Arabia and just fuck off. He has a deep hole inside and will never truly be happy, which makes me feel great, but that's a small consolation compared to the destruction of democracy and the entire USA.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 hours ago

That is offensive and sad. Keeping existing infrastructure that makes a nice employee perk has high value. Cost savings on electricity seems like a bs minimal excuse.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 20 points 6 hours ago

Shameful. Reminds me of when Reagan had the solar panels removed from the roof of the White House.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is really funny imo.

We are past the time when green technology needs a boost.

We are now at a time when green tech is the cheapest solution.

So these are all theatre, cause green will be the obvious choice for those who think about the bottom line moving forward.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Shikam@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 hours ago

That's exactly right. These thing were already bought, paid for, installed, and being used. This is just a fuck-you to anyone who cares about the environment. Why? Because if you care about the environment you probably don't support Trump.

[–] houseofleft@slrpnk.net 31 points 14 hours ago (10 children)

Off topic, but any other non-US people here, how are you reacting to the USA's facism on hyperdrive streak?

I don't think the US has ever been the most popular country, but now the president is trying to eradicate palestine, disrupt European security from Russia, and plunge the world into a climate apocalypse at an even faster than before rate, I feel a lot worse about any interactions with the USA. I've been trying to move away from using anything US produced or owned, which isn't particularly easy.

Is it just me? Was I naive to think US was any better before? Am I naive in singling out the US?

[–] imvii@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm in Canada.

Since Bush W, I saw the blatant writing on the wall of the direction the US was going. Trump version 1 seemed like a clown show and I assumed things would get worse but it would take 20-30 more years. I never once thought we'd see a Trump version 2.

I think this is probably the end of the USA as we once knew it. Trump is on a speedrun to crash everything. The American people are either cheering it on or apathetic. The public won't stop him. The opposition in US government seems unable to deal with Trump because he clearly doesn't give a shit about decorum, rules, or law.

I guess we all realize empires eventually fall. The US got itself here from it's own hubris. It's time.

I do worry being right next door and both the US and Russia eyeballing our northern routes and resources. More and more I'm coming to terms with probably dying defending my country from a direct attack. Something I never really worried about until last November.

It's a scary time

[–] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I've always seen the US as a somewhat virulent imperial power, and it made a clear and decisive break with international law back in 2001 which successive administrations have never walked back, so it's been a bit of a rogue/outlier state for the past 24 years.

That said I think what we are seeing now is different. The US has just undergone full legislative capture by oligarchs, and they are going ham on the rest of the world.

[–] Manticore@beehaw.org 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

For many of us overseas, this is seen as the US pulling back the curtain, yes. These ideas have been couched rhetoric for decades, mostly from Reagan or even earlier. The current figures just don't know how to be subtle about it. Or perhaps, feel confident enough to believe nobody will stop them.

This follows with the people. We've seen Americans make excuses for harmful policy for decades already, preoccupied with which individual social tribes to blame. I think many were (or are) hoping this extremity would prompt revolt or rebellion, but are ultimately not surprised that most Americans have simply become even more divided and hostile. Were begging you to stop it. Most of us are already convinced you won't.

The groundwork to make men/women left/right native/expat worker/boss Chrstian/Muslim etc blame each other for the suffering in their own communities has been laid for a long time and is now self-sustaining and making uniting against class difficult, if not impossible.

The ridiculous military funding also makes Americans that do want to resist feel too afraid to do so. You were told it would protect you from the other social tribes, but the tribes being blamed were chosen almost exclusively for the elite's financial or global power reasons.

[–] match@pawb.social 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

it's especially hard trying to move away from US produced goods and media for me, as I am in the US

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah its tough... At least you can block ads when browsing and pirate digital media pretty easily 🤷‍♀️

[–] Gloomy@mander.xyz 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

German here. We are 4 to 8 years away from Nazis becoming elected again, at least very likely. I'm looking with horror towards the US and just hope he burns it down so fast that the right shift looses it's current drive in Europe.

[–] bad_alloc@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Nah, we can't rely on external signals doing anything like that. We need to make peoples lives better. The right surge is an emotional rectioan amplified by external propaganda, but fundamentally people are right to protest against the current system which keeps impoverishing them. The conclusion of voting right wing is wrong of course.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Doesn't work. The more you make people's lives better, the more the far right grifters will bitch about how you are giving handouts to migrants and inviting them here. The best thing you can do is make public advocacy for proto-nazi scum unsafe or impossible. Burn their flags, crash their rallies, slash the tires on their rental trucks.

[–] Justas@sh.itjust.works 15 points 12 hours ago

Lithuanian here, a very popular Facebook page keeps posting "Trump is about to wake up, prepare for him saying something stupid" every day.

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 8 hours ago

dude also purged the generals yesterday

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 19 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Hi, Aussie here. Entirely expected and unsurprising. I mean Hitler learned from the USA.

Been watching the usa destroy everything nice about Australia for my entire life and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Good luck, please don't our government again if we elect another socialist.

[–] kerr@aussie.zone 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Another Aussie here. We have elections coming up and looking at the US as a cautionary tale for reactionary politics. Hoping it does not translate to success for our Trump-lite candidate here.

[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Canadian here, it pains me to admit that my hope at this point is that Trump manages to crash the US so fast that it hits rock bottom before invading us.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

Yep, at the moment I don't think most of their military would follow the order,but in a few years they might. Best case scenario America balkanizes before then, and we can make friends with the sane countries like the New California Republic while ignoring the crazy ones like whatever the Mormon theocracy calls their new country

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 6 points 12 hours ago

100% chance we're getting Ukrained if he gets the opportunity.

[–] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 7 points 12 hours ago

This isn’t off topic at all. What brand are the chargers currently installed? And when the armored cybertrucks are mandated government vehicles, what brand of chargers will be reinstalled? And at whose order is all of this happening?

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 56 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Fuuuuuuuuck why? He is actively trying to kill the planet?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

People use to complain that Captain Planet had unrealistic villains.

[–] mjhelto@lemm.ee 49 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

It's called accelerationism. It's the belief that a better society can only come about after a large disruptive event wipes out the current system. Those that survive (lots of billionaires with bunkers) will shape the new society in their eyes. It's real and it's terrifying. Like you I was mystified by the choices of the rich and powerful until I learned about this shit. Now it all makes sense...

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago

Hahahaha

If we truly do lose our modern comfort, tyrants would be the first thing on the chopping block.

Like how it always is, similar to the French Revolution.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 18 hours ago

Not even that, it's the religious nutters trying to ponk the apocalypse.

Fun fact: for the theologians they're already at antichrist level

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