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my dad specifically has really been feeding into hypermasculine, gun-loving, "true American" MAGA nonsense. I am gay and while he has no issue with me or my partner he continues to align himself with people who do not believe in my right to exist. He didn't believe Elon did a nazi salute. He said I was listening to the liberal propaganda. Now that trump has pulled out all the stops and continues to implement project 2025, I question whether I can still be in contact with him. Even if he is not (outwardly) rooting on everything, him not condemning what is happening to me seems like he is doubling down on his beliefs.

I am drained mentally and honestly think that he will continue supporting the destruction of this country and the rights of millions all because he idealizes their "alignment" with masculinity, guns, the military, traditions, etc.

How do I approach the topic with him and tell him it's either me or these beliefs/trump? Is that selfish of me? I know some people say that this will only further the divide but honestly I feel like things now are irreperable and I should not be involved with people who turn a blind eye to fascism.

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[–] Tramort@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

We all have the right to establish clear boundaries of behavior we won't tolerate.

You can't force your dad to respect them, but it's not selfish to pull away when he fails to.

I'm sorry you have lost your parent in this way. It's awful.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

My brother didn't vote and in person around family, he is not a Trump supporter but he is conservative. Publicly via social media, he's never once said a bad thing about Trump and has never hesitated to strawman shit on Dems. During the run up to the election, he made some comments about Kamala after the first debate, and it was all just horseshit takes. I typed a dozen messages and deleted them because what I was going to send would have been one of those things you don't come back from. Instead I've completely cut him out of my life and I'm on active avoidance. The only saving grace for him, is that I know he didn't vote for Trump, which means almost nothing, but he didn't actually do the worst thing. Because of that, in 4 years, I'm going to assess the damage of this Presidency and make a choice on if I will ever even consider seeing him again or if he's dead to me. I will never forgive him and we will never have a relationship, but there's a chance that we might both be able to go to familial gatherings, like funerals in the future.

For me, this isn't a very difficult decision. We've never really been super close since he's quite a bit older, but we were good. I'm fully prepared to miss significant events to avoid him. I'm not sure what your relationship with your father is like, but one thing you have to consider is how it's going to affect anything else family related, like family reunions, funerals, weddings, holidays, etc. Make sure that you think of all of the effects this may have before jumping the gun and doing something you can't undo. You can certainly try and salvage the relationship and have a serious heart to heart where you lay it all out, and if that's not enough, then I suppose that the decision is easier. Alternatively, if you're ready to be done, you have the option of sending him something with a reason, telling him what's up and bye, or ghosting him. If you ghost him, that will make any chances of rebuilding a future relationship a lot harder.

Best of luck.

Do you allow a gangrenous left foot kill the rest of your body because half your shoes wouldn’t fit anymore? Cut it off don’t look back and I promise you will finally find peace. I did it with parts of my family and after a few years I still don’t regret it.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I love guns, especially when they are used by people like mario’s bro…. Allegedly.

But no you're not mot wrong, these billionaire turd cutter tongue punchers are intolerable. They are too dumb to understand they support blatant fascism and that conservative and neo liberal center right conservative policies over the last 5 decades have ruined this country while they praise an administration tripling down on the same policies that brought us here and the empty space between their ears calls a corporate owned controlled opposition party “the radical left” because democrats tepidly support trans and human rights in general (at a bare minimum) meanwhile they ignore any actual true leftist economic policies and always support capitalist imperial hegemony. We live in fucking bizarro world and i cant take these fucks anymore.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Haven’t spoken to my brother in years because of that, and we’re not even Americans or living in America.

I’ve cut off everyone who ever expressed a positive opinion of him.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Talk to him. And however that conversation goes if you feel like cutting contact then cut contact. Family or not toxicity sucks. And you, like many other people, can make a new family from friends

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

You should limit interactions for your own mental health. This will be unpopular among the more strident hardliners, and I cannot presume to know your situation. Some, if not most of Trump supporters are woefully misinformed. Cutting them off can make them more defensive and further entrenched.

As time progresses, the cognitive dissonance they are experiencing will become overwhelming and they will need a place to land. We cannot confront this with tough love. Eventually some of them will see Trump for what he is, and only with patience and compassion can we bring them over. The time to take sides will come, and we will need everyone who is willing to help.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's about you, you're not doing it to make a point. You're doing it to protect your mental health. Maybe you can approach it from that angle with your father. And if he carries on the way he did then I guess he got a fair warning.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I think it's best to straght ghost them, but I haven't personal had to do that to family-- only family friends. They won't change their views for you, it's really just for your own mental health and a clean cut is so much more satisfying.

It's always probably they'll change on their own eventually and want to reconcile and if that happens, there's always a way to find someone if one tries hard enough. And if he doesn't change? People like that deserve to die alone.

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago

third is basically going on strike from your relatives

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