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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) pushed back against Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, after he suggested the DOJ investigate her for “aiding and abetting” illegal immigration.

Homan accused her of helping people evade ICE by educating constituents on their constitutional rights. AOC dismissed the threats, challenging Homan to proceed and calling him a “coward.”

Tensions are high over immigration enforcement and civil liberties, with AOC arguing that informing people of their rights is legally protected.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 255 points 2 days ago (3 children)

AOC is what the democratic party needs to become. The sooner the party figures that out, the sooner they can start clawing back public support.

[–] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago

We need so many more like her. Whip smart and brave.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, like what the fuck are they doing? Waiting for a ref to come in and say the other team isn't playing fair? Time to sink to their level and fight back!

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IMHO, she’s not sinking to their level. She’s actually being honest and authentic.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You assume they want it. They get their donor money and trading perks no matter who is in power.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

👆 This right here. It may be oversimplified or “naive”, but I liken the Democrats as shills for the audiences of snake oil salesmen; they push back just enough to seem genuine, but they’re all in cahoots.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I find this rhetoric to be a blame game of nonfunctional government.

Let's say it easy. Did they want the ACA to be more, yes. Did it become more no.

So let me ask you a simple question, do you want the ACA completely dissolved or still fighting for existence? Because that is the only real legacy of a Democratic ownership of the legislative body that has existed since Y2K.

So do you support universal health care, or do you not? Because we are going to fight tooth and nail, claw by claw to fucking get it, and everyone who thinks otherwise is thinking that the companies lobbying against it will just suddenly "disappear" if you had the right candidate. Bull shit

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m at the point in my life, and understanding, that there is no right candidate. I don’t want the ACA at all. It’s been mutilated and mutated by the republicans (and indirectly by the democrats who rolled over and let it happen) so badly it’s not really that good. Sure, it’s probably better than nothing, or maybe it’s not. I don’t have that knowledge or experience to say.

What I do want is universal healthcare (done right) and universal basic income (done right). I am sick and goddamn tired of the elites shitting on everyone below their economic status. No one — absolutely no one — needs to have that much money, power, or influence on everyone else’s lives.

And at this point, there is absolutely no reason anybody shouldn’t be able to figure out truth versus bullshit. Anybody who believes vaccines cause harm, or trans anybody is out to rape the kids, or even as stupid as saying the earth is flat, needs to be rounded up and have something done with them; what, I don’t know. I’ll leave that to smarter people than me to figure out.

And one more thing — let’s get this straight: free speech for the sake of being able to “express yourself” any which way you see fit is bullshit. It’s that mentality that got us here in the first place. No. If you say something - either with malice or ignorance - you need to be held responsible for any and all consequences (I’m looking at you Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carey, Rush Limbaugh (rot in hell), goddamn Republican/MAGA/Traitors). If I yell fire in a crowded theater, you’re damn right I should be punished for all damage and harm that comes from that.

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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Homan accused her of helping people evade ICE by educating constituents on their constitutional rights.

Homan is saying teaching the US Constitution to people is a crime?! What the actual fuck!?

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

WHO TOLD YOU YOU HAVE RIGHTS!!!

[–] whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works 149 points 2 days ago (23 children)

educating constituents on their constitutional rights

Wow, how dare she!

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[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 46 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only thing about this is I don't trust them. I would totally expect them to plant shit or just lock her up like Navalny. In a normal would, the investigation would fizzle like a Gym Jordan investigation. If they take AOC, we're gonna suit up, boys.

I'm not letting my kid grow up to be a Nazi. Not without a fight.

The education system here might be crap, but it did do an effective job at showing me the significant damage a few can do, but also showed me the overwhelming power of the many.

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does he understand how weak this makes him look? This little girl is making your job difficult? But you're a big strong man with a mandate, and youve said it almost a dozen times now, you know exactly where these criminals are. Which is it? Wittle bitty AOC is a big meanie head that's making it hawd to find deeze big bad criminal maniacs. Or you know exactly where they are and we have nothing to worry about. If you know where they are and you have ample evidence of their crimes getting a warrant shouldn't be any problem at all and there's nothing AOC can do or say to stop you.

WHICH IS IT!?

Oh that's right it's the one where YOU want to violate rights and YOU want to break laws and having people be informed of their rights means you can't be a tyrant.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fascist societies rhetorically cast their enemies as "at the same time too strong and too weak". On the one hand, fascists play up the power of certain disfavored elites to encourage in their followers a sense of grievance and humiliation. On the other hand, fascist leaders point to the decadence of those elites as proof of their ultimate feebleness in the face of an overwhelming popular will.

One of Umberto Eco's 14 properties of fascism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ur-Fascism

[–] caboose2006@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Ah god damnit you're right. Here I thought people were consistent and rational.

[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 46 points 2 days ago

If Trump was dead serious on immigration, he would've challenged and sent Musk packing. But Trump's idea of tackling the immigration issue is in the same vein as tackling anyone else he don't like. So he would delightfully target AOC and get rid of her at any chance.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

Go ahead Tom Homan, show Republicans how much the Trump admin and DoJ is being made to care about free speech and 1st amendment rights.

[–] ehpolitical@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wouldn't be daring known liars to do anything... you have to be wise when dealing with people like that.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

idk, man. at some point bodies have to go on the line. people need to stand in the way.

I am thankful that some in the Democratic party seem to be willing to lead on this. makes it a little easier for the rest of us to get the fuck up off the couch.

edit: creeped your posts. usa here. double thumbs up on your american blackout day on the 28th. stand up to the bully - I am proud for canada.

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[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You need to push back hard. If they come at you to arrest you (as a sitting representative), maybe it'll wake people up. You just have to hope they aren't going to barge in at 6 am with machine guns, because historically that doesn't end well for anyone.

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