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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC) pushed back against Trump’s border czar, Tom Homan, after he suggested the DOJ investigate her for “aiding and abetting” illegal immigration.

Homan accused her of helping people evade ICE by educating constituents on their constitutional rights. AOC dismissed the threats, challenging Homan to proceed and calling him a “coward.”

Tensions are high over immigration enforcement and civil liberties, with AOC arguing that informing people of their rights is legally protected.

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[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 256 points 2 days ago (3 children)

AOC is what the democratic party needs to become. The sooner the party figures that out, the sooner they can start clawing back public support.

[–] chase_what_matters@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago

We need so many more like her. Whip smart and brave.

[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, like what the fuck are they doing? Waiting for a ref to come in and say the other team isn't playing fair? Time to sink to their level and fight back!

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 100 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

IMHO, she’s not sinking to their level. She’s actually being honest and authentic.

[–] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You assume they want it. They get their donor money and trading perks no matter who is in power.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

👆 This right here. It may be oversimplified or “naive”, but I liken the Democrats as shills for the audiences of snake oil salesmen; they push back just enough to seem genuine, but they’re all in cahoots.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I find this rhetoric to be a blame game of nonfunctional government.

Let's say it easy. Did they want the ACA to be more, yes. Did it become more no.

So let me ask you a simple question, do you want the ACA completely dissolved or still fighting for existence? Because that is the only real legacy of a Democratic ownership of the legislative body that has existed since Y2K.

So do you support universal health care, or do you not? Because we are going to fight tooth and nail, claw by claw to fucking get it, and everyone who thinks otherwise is thinking that the companies lobbying against it will just suddenly "disappear" if you had the right candidate. Bull shit

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m at the point in my life, and understanding, that there is no right candidate. I don’t want the ACA at all. It’s been mutilated and mutated by the republicans (and indirectly by the democrats who rolled over and let it happen) so badly it’s not really that good. Sure, it’s probably better than nothing, or maybe it’s not. I don’t have that knowledge or experience to say.

What I do want is universal healthcare (done right) and universal basic income (done right). I am sick and goddamn tired of the elites shitting on everyone below their economic status. No one — absolutely no one — needs to have that much money, power, or influence on everyone else’s lives.

And at this point, there is absolutely no reason anybody shouldn’t be able to figure out truth versus bullshit. Anybody who believes vaccines cause harm, or trans anybody is out to rape the kids, or even as stupid as saying the earth is flat, needs to be rounded up and have something done with them; what, I don’t know. I’ll leave that to smarter people than me to figure out.

And one more thing — let’s get this straight: free speech for the sake of being able to “express yourself” any which way you see fit is bullshit. It’s that mentality that got us here in the first place. No. If you say something - either with malice or ignorance - you need to be held responsible for any and all consequences (I’m looking at you Jenny McCarthy, Jim Carey, Rush Limbaugh (rot in hell), goddamn Republican/MAGA/Traitors). If I yell fire in a crowded theater, you’re damn right I should be punished for all damage and harm that comes from that.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So how do you get your universal healthcare if not claw by claw in a democracy overriden by bureaucratic bribery? By pissing on those who support bits of it? Or by ignoring them and choosing nothing?

If you want to fight for it, you do it by supporting those who support more, and tearing down those who down support any of it. Kill them if you have too, I don't care. The point remains the same. If you compare it to a sports game, every inch matters. American football is like American politics. It'll take 1,000,000 working class men to offset 1 oligarch at the minimal. We need about 70,000,000 working class people right now to get us pointed in the right direction. That's just the start.

By the way, love your thoughts about justice

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago

I'm sure they're happy to hear they're shills to new-hitler as per some internet rando.