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If a movie is going to end is it worth watching?

The point is to pass on your genes.

Existential crisis moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVbKHNNWOUg

Give it a try of you really want to know...

While happiness might need reason, life doesn't. I find that, in a way, we live in a probabilistic universe with enough attractors that allowed things to form. Among them were humans, now also building some things with/against the odds, and subsequent self-image/sense of importance.

You can still suspend thinking about the inevitability of death and inherent lack of meaning to feel or create something. It does require one to choose and get comfortable making choices that are beyond right and wrong (not in a moral sense), however.

I don't know if there is one answer for why people can still feel happy despite it all, and I suspect there will be different reasons. One reason could be that they've just accepted the futility, focusing on what makes them happy. Or maybe they've accepted that pursuing universality/objectivism when it comes to subjective things is impossible. Or maybe even that no matter which option one takes to view life, one cannot escape delusions.

Why does there need to be a point to it all. We exist, and we can set our own goals and create our own purpose in life. That's what self determination is. Personally, I find happiness in doing things that I find meaningful or interesting.

There is no purpose but to be alive, or rather, you make your own purpose.

A) There is no point.

B) The point is whatever you want, whatever you value.

C) Somebody keeps living after you, so "the point" is to pass things forward because "something" happens, to somebody else after you die. We inherit everything from our ancestors.

D) How should I know?

people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why?

Why not? Happiness comes from what happens while we're still alive. It's ""just"" a question of finding it.

What's the point? Nothing. Congrats.

Yet (...) people still manage to catch a glimpse of happiness. Why? Fuck if we know. Chemical shenanigans on living organisms.

Because the alternative would be having no happiness at all.

There is no point, we don't exist for a reason, we're just a thing that happened in the universe by random chance.

That's not an inherently bad thing though, heck, the concept of "bad" isn't even "real", it's just an invention we came up with.

But I digress. We must find out own purpose and meaning in life, it won't be handed to us. Think of the journey as a fun ride with no rules, there are no gods, the universe doesn't judge you, you are unique and weird and amazing and can interact with the universe in ways no gigantic star or powerful black hole ever could.

People in the future will wonder the thing. Kind of like a cosmic rickroll

How does something afterwards change the meaning of this in a good way?

Why fight for justice? E.g. the bible says god will judge and that i shouldn't. So if I just don't care about anything here but about god, I might have a bad time now but eternal happiness later. How meaningless is now this here? Everything is transactional. The love that you gave is for the sake of getting some much much more valuable later.

Why do people find happiness even in the worst situations? Because it is the only way to deal with it. We are made for survival and survival requires the willingness to survive. It doesn't matter if you are the strongest fighter, if you don't even want to fight back. Your desires come from survival needs.

And a little extra bit, there might not be a point in living. It might be meaning less. But I personally want to be happy. I just do. So everyday I work towards being happy. As I personally love my family and friends, I wish them to be happy. I just do. As my friends have family and friends, and their happiness is somewhat linked to their family and friends happiness, I want all of them to be happy too. And so on. As I can relate to the joy of being proud of oneself, I want them to feel that joy. And so on. None of this is objectively meaningful, I just like it that way. And I might be an asshole but I don't care if you agree with me, I want you feeling happy and fulfilled. Deal with it.

l duno

I simply believe that it's not the destination what matters, but the journey and what you do in it.

I just got a haircut, ate an ice cream while listening to Lady Gaga, had a nice soup for lunch and tomorrow I take the day off after a long and stressful work week. My meaning is in those details.

"If nothing we do matters - then all that matters is what we do."

If that’s the case, a Buddhist would have nothing to worry about! And a Christian would be in shambles I guess.

The chances that there this nothing waiting for us after death are laughably slim, especially as we make more discoveries about death and quantum phenomenon

Read into NDEs

Why not? One good ability I've heard is why watch a movie or listen to music or play a game if you know it's going to end? No one and nothing is it's best all the time, just understanding that there are some things that can be worth experiencing is the best life has to offer, really.

Its like running a marathon: you do it for the journey, not for the medal at the end.

(Disclaimer: you do it for the medal. But you would do it anyway, even if there is no medal, because its the journey that makes it worthwhile)

Check out Optimistic Nihilism.