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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Not me. I want the zealots all beheaded. Yea, what they're doing is illegal and I also* voted. But now it's chop chop time. I should start a website to get 15% of the population to agree with me on a specific day. Kind of like The General Strike. But with more axe.

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

OK. But what are you actually doing right now? What are any of us doing right now?

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm talking to like minded people overseas about preparing resources to help at-risk people evacuate the United States. I'm also accumulating an emergency fund and arming myself. I will continue to masquerade as a cis white dude so I can move mostly unimpeded. I plan to help people get to New England as a staging point--it will remain RELATIVELY less dangerous than most other parts of the country here--where they might have a chance of SURVIVING LONG ENOUGH to cobble their shit together enough that they can legally get overseas from here without violating a visa and getting deported back to this shithole.

I will also continue attempting to practice the art of not tipping off the enemy by giving them any warning that I might be a threat to them. I must swaddle myself in the flayed skin of civility. I must smile politely and patiently to their faces. I must lull them into feeling safe around me. I must wait until their back is turned. And then I can personally drag them to hell by the neck. Hopefully when nobody else will witness it.

There needs to be fewer fascists in America. One way or another. I'd rather see them convinced rationally to peacefully change their minds and stop being fascists. If they remove that option, well, they get lie in the beds they've shat.

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[–] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 8 points 1 week ago

Not me, I'm on a whole other continent, watching the blaze, hoping it doesn't spread too far.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Better than not voting and doing nothing.

The best would be voting and being an activist.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 week ago (36 children)

The US is not a democracy, it's a capitalist dictatorship.

Some Background: History conditions much of our thinking about our political systems and most Western democracies resemble Rome’s in 60 BC when, as Robin Daverman humorously says, three aristocrats–politician Julius Caesar, military hero Pompey and billionaire Crassus–formed a backroom alliance that dominated the elected senate. The oligarchs ensured that proletarii votes changed nothing and that the masses remained invisible unless they rioted or died in one of the elites’ endless civil wars. Two thousand years later, in Britain’s general election of 1784, the son of the First Earl of Chatham and Hester Grenville, sister of the previous Prime Minister George Grenville, and the son of the First Baron Holland and Lady Caroline Lennox, daughter of Second Duke of Richmond, offered voters offered a choice of dukes. Today, in many European countries (even egalitarian Sweden) ‘democracy’ is a mere veneer over powerful feudal aristocracies that still control their economies. American voters recently watched a former president’s wife competing with a former president’s brother being defeated by a billionaire who installed his daughter and son-in-law in important government positions and ensured that, as John Dewey said, “U.S. politics will remain the shadow cast on society by big business as long as power resides in business for private profit through private control of banking, land and industry, reinforced by command of the press and other means of propaganda”. Most Western politicians are related by marriage or wealth and have, like all hereditary classes, lost sympathy with the broad mass of their fellow citizens to the extent that, as American political scientists Martin Gilens and Benjamin Page found, ‘the preferences of the average American appear to have a near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy’

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are free to participate in any kind of meaningless gestures and genuflection to make yourself feel better, but the US is a controlled authoritarian oligarchy with democratic window dressing and not a democracy in any meaningful way.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Look, if you aren't going to do anything else, you might as well vote. It's the best you can do. And even if you are active, you should still vote.

[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Right, I said you are free to do any meaningless gestures you want

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Worse would be discouraging voting and activism. Instead try to tell people that nothing they do matters and just bend over and take it up the ass

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[–] Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It’s so dense and stupid to generalise everybody. It’s not like the US has more than 2 parties to vote on and the country is already having an us vs then mentality which cause people of the “other side” to disprove of anything the “other side” does. Does comprise even exist in US dictionaries?

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