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[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 84 points 3 weeks ago

MASK IS OFF
MASK IS OFF
MASK IS OFF

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 64 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Free speech for fascists, censorship for rainbows—Utah’s latest legislative masterpiece. Banning Pride flags as “political” while greenlighting swastikas under the paper-thin guise of “curriculum.” Peak intellectual dishonesty from a party allergic to consistency.

Prioritizing Confederate nostalgia over queer survival isn’t governance—it’s state-sanctioned bigotry. When a kid’s suicide risk hinges on your performative flag ban, maybe revisit your moral compass. Spoiler: It’s spinning off its axis.

The Nazi flag isn’t history—it’s hate. Allowing its display “for education” while scrubbing Pride symbols reeks of ideological laundering. Textbook fascism wrapped in patriotic gaslighting.

But hey, at least they’re united in one thing: protecting straight kids from the trauma of… checks notes… fabric rainbows. Priorities!

[–] datendefekt@feddit.org 10 points 3 weeks ago

Prohibiting rainbows gives me a strong "yuck, I'm gonna get cooties from your pink backpack" vibe.

[–] Mesophar@lemm.ee 9 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say that moral compass is spinning Right on the Axis...

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 52 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

If I ever see a Nazi flag being flown, I am setting that fucking thing on fire.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

There is this huge Confederate flag that flies near my house and the number of times I've wanted to set that shit in fire...

Though I fully expect to get shot if I went anywhere near it.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Folks displaying Tr×mp signs and hate symbols in the US are begging for others to come onto their property & vandalize their shit, just so they can do violence against the offenders.

If you plan to vandalize something, please be cautious. I've seen FB posts about how they'd love for "liberals to try and take it down so I have an excuse to open fire."

Psychotic.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 weeks ago

As a former conservative, I know this attitude all too well. That's why it would need to be a precision strike.

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I thought about it, even though my archery skills are near nil

That said, the only way it'd work is if the arrow had a mechanism to grab the flag.

The other way I would do it is if it was a trespass with people with military training who can watch my back while I lower the flag and replace it with the proper Confederate flag.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

You can get some fairly high powered lasers commercially, might have some OK results burning flags with one of those? Would have to be a pretty non-windy day though. Do take care though not to be shining it in a way that it could pass through the flag and hit, for example, the eyes of a pilot in a far off plane. As @despoticruin@lemm.ee says, a laser should be treated with respect the same as any other weapon, makeshift or not.

[–] despoticruin@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

While this could work, please don't go firing a laser powerful enough to set shit on fire randomly into the air. It's like firing a gun, that laser will fuck up whatever it hits and you don't know what's behind that flag. Easy way to kill a plane full of people by instantly and permanently blinding both pilots. I would look into artillery calculations and water balloons filled with bleach. Pretty easy to hit a stationary target with a pi handling trajectory calculations. Paintballs might be another option, bright pink.

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

Absolutely. I'll edit my original comment to mention the dangers.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Drone + lighter fluid + spark

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

What about a shotgun with a dragons breath shell? Would probably catch the thing on fire.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just the flag? Not the associated buildings?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 4 points 3 weeks ago

What it some Nazi dickbag runs a Nazi flag up someone else's pole? They don't deserve their shit burned down, but I can see no case in which the flag itself isn't fair game.

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

That's far, far too respectful in my opinion, but I can't think of a better option that doesn't risk blocking the sewers.

[–] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 41 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The logic is Nazi flags are part of history so it’s a curriculum thing that allows it to be displayed as part of the lesson. So if you teach a lesson on the history of stone wall or obergefell v Hodges you can fly the flag? Nope, too woke

[–] Ghost33313@beehaw.org 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If that was the logic it raises the question of why we continue to ignore lgbtq+ history. Which leads us right back to the real reason.

[–] nick@midwest.social 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Get yours at punkwithacamera.com

[–] Zirconium@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Really fast way to get kids to burn Nazi flags in the school

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Or salute it. Don’t get your hopes too high

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 points 3 weeks ago

Someone tried to tell me yesterday that Cascadia should welcome Utah into its ranks.

Lol, I say to you, random dude from, I assume, SLC.

Lmao even.

[–] Xuderis@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

“Our schools should be a place for children to learn, to not feel like they are being pushed or seen as agendas in one way other another as it pertains to political beliefs.”

So why are you pushing them to be nazis?

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Are Mormons Nazis? Because Utah = Mormons. And this is what they are advocating? Asking as a Canadian.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago
[–] ChaoticNeutralLife@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Mormons are not Nazis. Any person that claims they are Mormon, and then acts like a Nazi, is not Mormon. That person is a Nazi. No person that actually follows the ideologies of that church will advocate for this. I see this as a litmus test to see who is Mormon and who is not, regardless of what they claim.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

The state is dominated by Mormons in every facet is it not? These republican representatives reflect values of their voters do they not? You can't possibly claim that somehow a small tiny minority radicals have taken control of the legislature and the state's politics.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago
[–] lostwonder@beehaw.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Sends a bad message.