You literally cannot escape these companies, they own everything. Every brand of every everything, and you've got a large corporation in there somewhere in the shadows. That's why they tell you to separate the art from the artist, because it's been made impossible to boycott anything.
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Really? Maybe true for things like Nestlé but I don't use any of these services directly and it hasn't been difficult.
Chances are you‘re using AWS by Amazon daily and likely use an Apple or Google phone too. I personally don‘t think Paypal is worse than those. It‘s sheer impossible to escape them without ditching the Internet altogether.
Yes. But was talking about PayPal brands specifically. Let's not forget musk's involvement with the early days of PayPal. That's always been a turn off for me too.
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Disagree, haven't touched PayPal or anything related to PayPal in years without issue.
When PayPal bought Venmo I stopped using them too. And long before that stopped using Ebay back when PayPal/Ebay were tied together.
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I can easily avoid every company owned by PayPal.
I wish I could say the same, I use PayPal very frequently because my credit union doesn’t support debit-visa. With PayPal I can make payments with my bank online rather than use my cc.
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I work in a servo/convenience store and about 3/4 of our drink fridges (all 10 or so doors worth) are the same 4 brands. Probably most of the store is covered under like 7 brands.
Coke, Pepsi, Schweppes, Nestle, Unilever and there goes almost everything edible and drinkable that isn't fresh.
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I just finished removing all my payment methods from paypal and have to wait for a transaction to complete before I can delete the account entirely. Took less than 15 minutes.
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"Heavily integrated into eBay" except it isnt any more.
Firstly the article is a year and a half old but although you can still use PayPal on eBay to say it is heavily integrated is bullshit. EBay started moving away from PayPal years ago and at this point have integrated their own systems linking to your bank account to take the place of what they used to use PayPal for.
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This site provides absolutely no evidence of any of its claims and even includes the following little gem in the FAQ section on that page:
Is PayPal Safe?
Yes, all Paypal transactions are encrypted. Plus, it has two-factor authentication and fraud protection.
Safe for its customers, or safe for PayPal?
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You want to hurt the money changer?
Use cash as much as possible... that shit really hurts these parasites.
Buy us bonds directly from the Treasury! They hate it!
Wrong time to put money into government...
my man... USD is daddy's money...he lets you use them, if you you don't piss him off.
if you are worried about USD, them being in some shiti savings account aint gonna be any less risky then having it in US treasuries.
Another tactic is ..... don't spend money on things if you don't really need to. Why keep spending just to continually spend, spend, spend.
Zelle is separate right?
From wikipedia
Zelle (/zɛl/) is a United States–based digital payments network run by a private financial services company owned by the banks Bank of America, Truist, Capital One, JPMorgan Chase, PNC Bank, U.S. Bank, and Wells Fargo.
So PayPal does not seem to own an interest in Zelle, but the group of owners isn't necessarily better than PayPal.
It's capital all the way down, man.
A group of different bad people behind Zelle. But maybe enough to stop supporting those few South African ghouls working to role America and then the would beyond. You'll need to decide where your line is, but deleting PayPal account and uninstalling their apps is a start. Maybe you go to Zelle and use that while you research if there is something decent somewhere.
Maybe it means going back to small credit unions? paper checks? Direct bank transfers with friends/family? Not sure what best alternatives is currently. Banking in general is just not really ever going to contain good people - maybe if we allow personal banking at the post office one day - but that's a pipe dream as fascists are denying judges rulings and releasing January 6 criminals who tased a cop in the neck and admitted to it under oath.
Any alternatives to PayPal?
Depends on which function you want to replace?
Maybe one of these options are good?
https://alternativeto.net/software/paypal/
https://alternativeto.net/software/venmo/
While we're at it:
Looking through Amazon alternatives... they all suck so far. Though this Etsy alternative looks interesting:
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I just have opted out overall and literally use as little as I can across the board.
what did PayPal do?
It's an early specimen of "unregulated bank", founded in part by Trump buddy Peter Thiel and merged with Elon Musk's X.com in 2000.
They have a history of locking accounts under false pretenses and seizing the money. It's screwed over many a Kickstarter and Indiegogo. Early in Minecraft history, Notch lost access to over half a million dollars. They've failed to pay rewards in their software bug bounty program.
Edit: The usual antics for Musk and friends for 20 years.
Also, I checked my records. I'm biased (a word that the current US administration is erasing from all government documents) because of an early Amazon third-party seller plus PayPal experience; the item I was sent was wrong and 5% of the value of what I ordered. Returned sealed cheap item, seller wouldn't refund. PayPal ruled in the seller's favor and Amazon did not care because of third-party seller terms and conditions. A young person out a few hundred bucks doesn't forget that.
Braintree, Honey, Paydiant, Tradera, Xoom, and Zettle all owned by PayPal.
Not the modern X.com to be clear; Musk just has a weird fetish for the letter X like an edgy teenager.
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Oh boy... Look up peter thiel, elon musk and david sacks to start - three stains on humanity working very actively to end it as we speak. They were the basin founding faces of PayPal (I mean, I think musk came on after the fact or was pushed out early or something, continuing the trend of him never actually creating anything). Currently they are alll very active in the trump admin - two with officially appointed positions, one in the shadows. Vance is also created by thiel. Look up that "Dark Gothic maga" video (musk's stupid name) that's been shared often recently.
Then separately, PayPal owns Honey, and it turns out has been scamming millions, maybe billions away from online creators for years, probably some of your favorites included in that list. Active lawsuit ongoing - look up legal eagle's video maybe as a start.
All these billionaire fucks made their fortunes through Paypal and still likely hold stock and maybe board positions, can't recall?
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Also you need to invest in alternatives
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