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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 hours ago

Sure, it's like JPG.

It may not be the newest or best compression ratio, but it works, and even the shittiest old hardware supports it. And I know it won't whine about licences being missing or some shit.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I remember reading articles at the time of the last patents running out. Some were so misguided it was hilarious.

They called it the death of MP3! As if patents were good or necessary, instead of restrictive and troublesome for interoperability.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

I have boatloads of MP3s and at least they can pretty much be played by all imaginable software and hardware imaginable, and since the patents have expired, there's no reason not to support the format.

MP3s are good enough for its particular use case. Of course, newer formats are better overall and may be better suited for some applications. (Me, I've been an Ogg Vorbis fan for ages now. Haven't ripped a CD in a while but should probably check out this newfangled Opus thing when I do.)

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 12 points 8 hours ago

It's still my preferred format. Everything can play it. At 256kbit or better it sounds fine for usual listening.

[–] Eyedust@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago

I 100% do. I think mp3 is a good compromise of sound and space. It's also the format I'm used to. Just like how people swear by physical record. If I'm at a get together and hear mp3 quality, I'm at home.

That being said, I have my absolute favorites in flac for my iPod 5th gen video I rebuilt. The 5th gen's dac, Wolfson, is a solid little dac for the day and age. Got Rockbox loaded up and I'm ace, but I've hard saved all the Apple firmware for every model in case the time came to sell them. Old iPods could be an investment someday and I own every gen in multiples.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 16 points 13 hours ago

Still care about MP3- it's the bog standard, the thing EVERYthing supports. Like the shitty SBC codec on Bluetooth. I've still got tons of MP3s and they aren't going away anytime soon.

Everything I get new though is high-res FLAC.

[–] westyvw@lemm.ee 10 points 13 hours ago

Ogg at lower bitrates sounded better than mp3 at the same rate. Consumers dont care, but for a lot of game developers the zero patent risk and higher quality shipping with smaller files made Ogg a great choice at the time.

For me? FLACs are the only way.... which reminds me, I wonder I can still convert all the SHN (shorten) lossless files I still have. I should get on that before a converter doesn't exist.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

… I’m out of the loop. Why don’t people care about mp3s?

[–] HappyTimeHarry@lemm.ee 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Its mostly been superseded by AAC, Opus and FLAC.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

Mhmm I haven’t heard of the first two. I still listen to mp3s that I got from the 90s.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 26 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have thousands of mp3s so I'd say they still matter. As far as audio quality goes I doubt my ears, at least at my age, can tell the difference between them and a lossless format.

[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 16 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Anyone telling you they can hear the difference between a 320kbps MP3 and lossless audio is full of shit, anyway. It's still a great format for keeping file sizes small, though I prefer ogg these days.

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I'm in the same boat: can't hear any difference.

But, I have GBs of 320k MP3s... is it worth converting to Ogg ?

[–] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 12 hours ago

I'm a big fan ogg opus, but I wouldn't convert between lossy formats

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (3 children)

I listen to mp3 all the time. Back in the Napster days I collected a ton of music, but moreover I'm a fan of Old Time Radio from the 30s and 40s, so I accumulated around 10,000 of those shows. More than I'll ever have time to listen to. Audiophiles may deride the quality level, but I don't believe in letting perfection be the enemy of good. And even if "computers" - whatever that even means anymore lol - drop support for mp3, there will always be software that plays it as long as there are people with big collections of files they don't want to take the trouble to convert to something else.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

The man with the action packed expense account.

[–] aliceblossom@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

That sounds fascinating. If I were interested in those shows, where would I start? Are there at least some that are easily listenable to on the open internet?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

Biggest free download site is probably https://www.oldradioworld.com/

There's also the Internet Archive - https://archive.org/details/oldtimeradio

If you like sci-fi I highly recommend X Minus One - https://www.oldradioworld.com/shows/X_Minus_One.php

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Check out the many OTR Gold podcasts that have the serialized shows as episodes.

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 49 points 1 day ago (11 children)

It's useful because it's ubiquitous. Everything that can take in music files supports it.

Is MP3-encoded audio of the best possible quality? No, of course not. But for most people it's Good Enough, especially if you do most of your listening in a noisy environment. MP3s are to lossless formats what CD was to vinyl for so many years.

[–] bokherif@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (6 children)

A lot of people cant tell the difference between MP3 @320Kbps and a fully lossless FLAC.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 22 points 1 day ago

All people. 320kbps mp3 is completely audibly transparent under all normal listening conditions. It's a low-tier audiophile meme to claim otherwise but they will never pass a double-blind test.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

There might be things that are better these days in the technical sense. But there is always value in having something "good enough" that is freely available and compatible with nearly everything that has speakers to use to keep those technically better yet more expensive options in check.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 12 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah it works. What's the deal? You've got mp3s and then you got flac if you're audiophile.

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[–] thechaoticchicken@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Sounds fine at good bitrates, universally supported, small, efficient, everywhere.

Yeah, MP3 is just fine. Found zero reason to use any other format. And of course, while the rest of the world streams everything I'll be happily using my massive MP3 library I can fit on a tiny little storage device and take everywhere I go without the need for the interbutts and big brother keeping tabs of what I listen to.

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