No need, there's an unmaintained javascript library for that (written by a 12-yr old)
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Omg, sign me up! I'm gonna put that script in production for a server used by millions of customers around the world!
Oh no, now there is a security audit and the pdf generated is insecure, the unpaid developer that has not logged in since 2015 has to fix this ASAP
what? invest money to pay for open source software? are you nuts?
Just replace it with AI!!!
The secret to success in software engineering:
- Lie and say that there is
- Write or use a conversion algorithm
- Boss won't know the difference
- Collect bonus at performance evaluation
- Put "AI engineer" on resume
- Boss thinks AI can code at senior developer level and fires you and the entire team
- Never plan on staying at a SE job for longer than a few years. Not in a market that volitile.
Yes it’s an LLM called pandoc, you can run it locally
You don't need a private nuclear plant to run it? Wow very efficient.
Black magic software.
Initially, I didn't think these kids were fall guys.
Now I think they're fall guys.
That was my thought. Young kids fresh out of school are really easy to manipulate into delusions of grandeur, especially when said delusions are offered by the richest person in the world. He's gonna leave them out for the wolves.
Either that or Musk himself is truly so incompetent he thinks these kids are true geniuses. Honestly, with how things are going, that's a fiddy-fiddy chance, because Musk is somehow almost as unbelievably stupid as Trump.
Why not both?
You're probably not wrong, what with him awkwardly hopping around onstage at multiple trump rallies.
Technically OCR is an application of machine learning.
Not an LLM, though.
A world of difference
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yes me send me what you want me to parse and i will get back to you in 3-4 business days
This is that special blend of Tablet Kid "I don't need to know things I can google them" and Rich Kid "I don't need to do things I can crowdsource them" that makes for that Distinctively VP "I don't know what I'm doing and nobody can tell 👈😎👉"
Imagine getting a job like this and now half the nation knows your name...thats terrifying. being an intern may mean you have no idea of the true scope of what they are asking you to do.
They are public employees who are changing things at the core of our government. Why wouldn’t we know their names?
Government employees names aren’t secret (asides from a few exceptions) nor is their pay
We know that his dad is an engineering professor at university of Nebraska too. Really calls into question his credentials. I checked the other day and they had already removed his contact info from their website.
Yeah, seems that’s the point. Old enough to competently perform what they’re told, but too young to realize the gravity of the situation and how wrong it is to partake in it.
that's why we have 18 year soldiers ....
It’s ok, with the experienced gained from being forced to grow up, some will come home and use their savings to buy a dodge ram on a 7 year loan at 18% apr.
Oh yeah the hosted DeepSeek has that
I have to admit, PDF parsing being such a hot and profitable topic in computer science was really something I never saw coming.
PDFs? The things you can select text from? And when not, there's decent OCR? And when not, you just ask the person to send you an email or a word doc?
It sounds like LLMs are looking for a new unpolluted source of historical data that they can learn from, and this source exists in the form of old scanned-in paper documents. That's the only reason I can fathom as to why this is such a big thing now.
Every time I try to convert a PDF to epub or something, or OCR one that doesn't actually have selectable text, it turns out shit. I assume the real reason people would want to get LLMs involved is that there is actually a lot of ambiguity in what a correct conversion would be, and there are a lot of PDFs out there.
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Training the most insane AI model on classified federal documents.
Selecting text doesn't work in most multi-column pdfs and good OCR cost money. And if the original source is lost and you want an exact copy in word, the OCR tools need to be really good at guessing whitespace-to-line ratio, because pdf is only an output format and not a processing format.
For most other converting needs, there's pandoc, imagemagick and ffmpeg.
Is this fake?
For context, this is the guy who figured out how to see what's written on some ancient Greek Scrolls without destroying them. It seems slightly far-fetched that he wouldn't know better.
What Greek scrolls?
Ok so they were apparently in Greek but not from Greece. Source: https://news.unl.edu/article-2
Even granting the quality or contribution he had to that effort, there's a huge difference between, "I can make a computer read burnt scrolls," and, "I can make government software with industry-standard protocols and security."
By way of comparison, just because I can write automation software for my company's apps doesn't mean I could just jump into doing Linus Torvalds' job maintaining the Linux kernel.
Sure, but the difference between "I win awards for figruing out how to decipher ancient scrolls that no one has been able to do despite their best efforts" and "I can't research well enough to discover appropriate existing tools for document conversion" is very hard to reconcile.
It's not even a matter of research. The whole question is demented. It's like asking what is the best pizza cutter to write with.
Not particularly, in my book. Like I said, a specific skillset that allowed him to decipher ancient scrolls doesn't equate to practical skills that translate to other things like document conversion.
By way of another analogy, I can build a fine cabinet out of wood, but that doesn't mean I can also build a wooden cuckoo clock.
Ah yes, the famed document <-> JSON converter.
It's so easy! Watch:
{"contents": "<garbled .docx contents goes here>"}
Actually this is what they do.
Not at all. The only similarity is that LLMs work with text, and the document formats can also represent text.
Each format (E.g pdf, json, excel) has a defined standard, so all you have to do to change between each other is to map one format's fields to the others. You don't need (and won't get good results) from having an LLM produce the new format from scratch.
What he's asking is the equivalent of asking if there's an LLM made specifically for solving arithmetic problems. Why would you try to solve addition using an LLM?
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Just use Deepseek for US government data .... what could go wrong?
Like opening source code in Word.
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