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SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE

This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Decoupling America’s Artificial Intelligence Capabilities from China Act of 2025’’.

SEC. 3. PROHIBITIONS ON IMPORT AND EXPORT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE OR GENERATIVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TECHNOLOGY OR INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

(a) PROHIBITION ON IMPORTATION.—On and after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the importation into the United States of artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence technology or intellectual property developed or produced in the People’s Republic of China is prohibited.

Currently, China has the best open source models in text, video and music generation.

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[–] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

That doesn't sound like a free market to me.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

The Land of the free sure likes taking away freedoms and banning stuff

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

People there have chosen that by voting republican. I mean, he told what he planned to do and got voted for anyway..

Freedom, but only for rich, white douchebags

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

That's why I consider that tagline, 'The Land of the Free,' to be the failed punchline of a bad joke now. It hasn't meant anything since before Reagan took office at least.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 10 hours ago

I don't consider it valid so long as conscription exists, but now it's an utter joke

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 21 points 20 hours ago

China : Discovers Anti-gravity
USA : Law preventing study of anti-gravity

[–] BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

This would also effectively ban the use of any research produced by a Chinese national. Any papers which cite the work of Chinese labs (most of them) would be illegal, as this could be interpreted as aiding Chinese AI research.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

Good luck trying to ban OSS next, which would criminalize basically everyone who's ever used a browser that isn't IE, everyone who's ever used an Android phone or a Chromebook, everyone who's ever used any modern audio or video codec as the bulk of those are OSS too, and would destroy both Big Data and the Cloud, both of which are primarily Linux-based, and send the US back to the web's dark ages, as in going back to when BBSes were popular.

Also, since this bill punishes people by making them spend most of their lives in prison, how are they going to lock up everyone who’s ever used Chromium or Firefox browsers, for example, or everyone who’s ever used Android or ChromeOS, which is most of the country’s population at this point, should that ban extend to a general OSS ban? (this part was originally a reply but I moved it to the main post)

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Criminalizing something broadly isn’t usually done with the intention of going after everyone who does it, it’s so when they do single out someone they can charge them even if they haven’t actually caught them doing anything wrong (besides the thing everybody does).

See also: the way laws about taxes and drugs are often enforced.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the "free market" in action.

We are rotten to the core.

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[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ngl them not wanting me to download it makes me want to download it more than anything else, and I'm usually against ai

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

They are afraid. Very afraid. Good.

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Time to start seeding DeepSeek R1 I guess.

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I thought software and thus code was protected as free speech?

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Free speech and expression is one of the many previously-thought-to-be-inalienable rights that are in the current administration's crosshairs. If I could flee this country for, say, the Netherlands, I'd do so in a heartbeat, unfortunately I can't.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The Netherlands would be high on my list, too. What a pleasant place.

[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

NJB's praise of their infrastructure would have me sold on them if I could actually flee the US.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DFX4509B_2@lemmy.org 2 points 17 hours ago

Not Just Bikes.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

The right to free speak can be compromised if it interferes with other, more important rights...

... like the right of shareholders to make money.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 21 hours ago

BuT tHe FrEe mArKeT

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

Capitalism truly thrives on competition and innovation

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

US is getting very desperate

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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

8 words: hilary clinton ai voice talking about ball sucking

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Awesome, so on top of all the other crap, like a economy that is going off a cliff, the US wants to actually get further behind on AI, just so that assman van make a few extra dollars

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you can't download them, you should run them directly on tencent cloud or something? Smart...

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't even like ai but this just makes me want to download Deepseek as much as I can

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[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The paste does not go back in the tube....

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

It can if you kind of squeeze the tube a little bit and then let it suck the paste back in. But it's really tedious.

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It is much worse. I hope I am reading it wrong, but:

The term ‘‘technology’’ [...] includes [...] any semiconductor, circuit board, operating system, graphics processing unit, central processing unit, tenor processing unit, field-programmable gate array, random access memory, hard drive, solid-state drive, dataflow architecture, or cloud-computing service, that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, completed, [...] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence [...] and any other hardware, software, equipment, device, component, robotic computer, processor, network [...] that is manufactured, designed, developed, supplied, deployed, [...] [etc.] to function artificial intelligence or generative artificial intelligence.

This would mean that importing and exporting literally any piece of IT equipment, from a Ubuntu installer to a RAM chip, is illegal. Good luck & have fun.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's good old "everything is now illegal" law, selective enforcement does the rest. Straight out of the young dictatorship handbook

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 171 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

These fucking clowns just refuse to learn about how technology works. Fucking morons.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Government banned Chinese AI?

Step 1: ask a friend from any other country to fork the model (brotip: use magnets for faster acquiring a friend)

Step 2: have your friend rename the AI.

Step 3: now the model is from said country.

Step 4: download the model from said fork.

OpenAI will go bankrupt. US Government will be jelly. Problem?

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[–] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Being open weights, if I, resident of Ijustmadeitupista n take it and make a very slight tweak, would it be OK for this rule?

And, if my pal from China takes a US open model and tweaks it to criticize CCP, will it be banned?

I honestly think politicians should think just a bit before trying to legislate things they clearly don't understand.

[–] dx1@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

The way it's written, it sounds like we could download it in the US, after the law was passed, for 180 days, and then do whatever we want with it. Unfortunately, after that point, the test of it being "developed" in China would probably be met for anything but a near-total rewrite.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago

Oh what’s that? Yeah that’s Barbara Streisand’s house

[–] db2@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I'm not even in to this shit and I'm going to download it right now because fuck those assholes.

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[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I'd like to point out that it is only one single proposal. If this does not get shut down, then it is time to be worried. But for now, it might just be one glue-sniffing Congressperson sniffing the wrong kind of glue one morning.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is why we gotta ban TikTok!!!! \s

Seriously tho it's a bummer to see how many people here promote all this horseshit.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah, the supporters of the free market strike again. No competition allowed, Sam Altman and his American billionaire peers are entitled to all the money.

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