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You can see it if you check https://fedidb.org/. Monthly active users have gone from just a hair under one million to somewhere around 1.4 million and still growing. How do we think this will go? How do we feel about this influx of new users? Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn't?

I feel like I didn't really recognize having different "platforms" like Mastodon, PixelFed, etc would give multiple opportunities for the fediverse to make a "first" impression with people.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 day ago

Lemmy once had a massive influx of new users, a lot left again and monthly active users has remained somewhat constant for a long time now. Let's wait and see how many people actually stay on PixelFed.

[–] drapermache@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm excited. I'm one of those users, but I haven't used it much because I can't find followers. To be fair, I never used Instagram. I like the fediverse, I usually see the same articles get sent through other centralized communities other than reddit (tildes, hacker news, etc), but I enjoy the community discussion the best around here.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn’t?

Yes. The interface is good and familiar. The majority of the traffic is on one namespace where discoverability is good. Because of the nature of the medium, getting started with no algorithm is a lot easier to stomach than just looking at what your local people have to say.

This is not to bash Mastodon, but they need that algo, which is why Bluesky is hoovering up users. Also, their UI, depending on the server is more tweetdeckish, which might scare off a lot of casuals.

edit: I've been informed the bsky has no algo, so somehow they seem to be getting better results in discover, perhaps single name space or perhaps they have something behind the hood.

Also, to start with, all the journalists FLOODED info, Mastodon, without any algo; you just got a hundred wordsmiths screaming past each other and they all immediately followed each other, so you couldn't just find people like Jeff Jarvis, you got to see everyone he had a professional experience of which is WAY more than anyone is prepared to read :)

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bluesky doesnt have an algorithm for its discover feed (the default), or at least it didn't used to have one, but provides an API for building your own feeds which lets you do whatever you like.

Bluesky's big growth was from the fact it was, like PF, easy to use and easy to navigate, and all the content was on one namespace.

Lemmy is an outlier imo. You can interact and repost and find content on different instances easily. Mastodon made following feeds from different instances nearly impossible which turned me off it permanently even if I believe in its value over Bluesky.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Bluesky doesnt have an algorithm for its discover feed

For not having one, my Discover feed was pretty dead on. Maybe just luck or maybe it was the right time for the right facebook influx.

edit: they might have one https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueskySocial/comments/1g9zzca/bluesky_dosent_have_an_algorithm_so_what_is_the/

Lemmy is an outlier

Lemmy is damn close to Reddit's mental design, but instead of 27 different subs for news on one place, there are 2-3 different places that have a news sub. news@here and news@there isn't hard to grasp, I think the platform works remarkably well.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Lemmy is full of bad news, hate and toxicity while pixelfed is full of artists and people sharing cool pictures and their passion. Visiting my pixelfed account from 2023 a few days ago set such a contrast with what I see on lemmy that I started using it regularly. It really felt weird to visit such a wholesome place after using lemmy for a long time. Now I use pixelfed to balance out the bad stuff from lemmy for maintaining my mental health and to appreciate the art which is not common on lemmy.

[–] ThunderLegend@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I hear you. I'm getting tired of the massive amount of posts about trump and elon and politics. I don't see almost any new content about other stuff.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s like Reddit and you gotta filter out the bullshit. Adding Elon, Musk, Trump, and RFK to my block list improved my mental health quite a bit. Hopefully if it’s egregious enough it will slip through and I won’t be blind sided by some terrible thing they’re doing. That’s the only downside.

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The problem is that Lemmy isn't at the point where I can browse it like I do on Reddit.

After the API thing killed my main reddit app, I just lurk on like 4 1 million+ user sports/video game/military meme subreddits and check on them every 1h/30min to see 10 new posts or any important news that happened. I check r/all maybe like once every few months.

The relevant lemmys just aren't that active or don't have low-effort post rules, so I'm kind of stuck browsing the front page of Lemmy if I want to see more than 10 posts per day

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[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe you could try banning words like "elon" or "trump" if you feel overwhelmed. Some apps have this feature

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[–] snoopy@peculiar.florist 3 points 1 day ago

@Martineski @koncertejo
Interesting, thank for your feedback.

For our instance jlai.lu, we try to balance bad news with the forum libre, where we can share picture, movie, book, some daily game...i think it work pretty well because everyone share what they love.

For News, we separated usa, israel-palestine from world news so it offers a place where anyone can post there or filter. And it let other communities breath.

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[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 152 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)
  1. The official Pixelfed app just has a nicer looking UI
  2. There's not really a competing app for people leaving Insta like there is Bluesky vs Mastodon
  3. Pixelfed's content is mostly visual so it's easily digestible to casual users and you don't have to scroll past dry Fedi arguments
  4. Better discover features so users don't have to do a bunch of legwork to find who to follow

Just my guesses though, but like any social media it really depends on if big creators will switch and if users stick with it over time

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

This.

Discovery and user abstraction are Lemmy's biggest issues and we are not addressing them to the degree we should.

I know there's some stuff on all those centralized platforms that's way over the top, but most of it is actually pretty helpful. And you'll miss it once you switch here.

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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 87 points 2 days ago (14 children)

The tide lifts all the boats... there is also a noticeable uptick in Lemmy registrations, at least here on our instance.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 43 points 2 days ago

The tide lifts all the boats...

Exactly. I do not care much for Pixelfed. Or Mastodon. Or Friendica. Or really much of anything other than Lemmy. But I just stood up my own PixelFed server, so if someone wants to get away from Meta, I will happily support their decision (and pixelfed.social's server by offloading resources) and they can find me there.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yup, I spotted a few Lemmy accounts that were less than a week old recently. Very nice.

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First time i have posted on anything resembling insta in 111 weeks

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

We can't want the Fediverse to get bigger but be scared of normies when it does. I say welcome in! We should be mindful to listen to the new recruits, because their feedback is the most unbiased.

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[–] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So far so good! Some very unscientific observations from spending an absurd amount of time scrolling local on pixelfed.social:

The people coming from Instagram and TikTok seem way less grumpy than the microbloggers. People are having a lot of fun and not complaining about much. It's kind of a trip seeing happy, joyful people on the Fediverse to be honest. Everything in the world suuuuuuuucks right now, so it's felt like a bit of a refuge. Sometimes I'll accidentally bounce over to the global feed and oh man is the change in tone jarring.

People don't seem to have a problem with servers like the Twitter migrants did. Folks are still talking about it a lot on Mastodon though. I've literally not seen a single post about Pixelfed being "too complicated" to succeed, whereas it was (and is) pretty common to see "this place is great and all, but..." posts in the microblogging neighbourhood. Not sure why this is but it might be because the people coming to Pixelfed are generally younger than Mastodon users. This is just a guess, but I'd estimate the average age of Mastodon users is maybe mid-40s. Most of the people pouring into Pixelfed appear to be in their mid-to-late-20s. Perhaps those folks are just more accustomed to servers through Discord and gaming? Though people are generally captioning photos and not writing out lists of things they're unhappy about and they could also just be unaware of servers altogether...

Pixelfed is easily the most diverse "corner" of the Fediverse now. Fedi is very white but a large number coming over now aren't. Pixelfed.social has probably gone from being 75% men to 75% women in the last few weeks. Diversity is the best possible thing for the social web.

I've seen a bunch of people on Instagram promoting Feb 1st as "Global Switch Day" so hopefully it'll keep blowing up.

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[–] match@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

that's cool, what's the furry instance

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I miss that era of practical effects so bad.

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[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 51 points 2 days ago

Pixelfed's monthly userbase has gone from 15k to almost 300k in the past month. Absolutely massive for the fediverse.

I'll probably try it out eventually^TM^

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 25 points 2 days ago

It's nice to see. I'd compare it to back when Lemmy was in the same situation and tens of thousands of users came from Reddit to Lemmy over night.

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 38 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Glad to see more people introduced to the tech bro free social media.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn't?

On this topic I just want to point out the microblog format with twitter even BEFORE musk bought it had gotten very cold, harsh and toxic.

As a result the most positive thing you can say about people's feelings about microblogging is that they are bored of it (in terms of it having inspiring potential) even if they use it daily themselves and like it.

I don't think that is fair to mastodon or microblogging, it is just how the ships happened to sink as they crashed into the reef.

I say this all to emphasize that it is ok for mastodon not to get hit by massive hypecycles. Mastodon is useful and awesome, if people see it is as boring I say let that be a compliment because that means people are beginning to slowly trust the medium again.

Twitter/musk made people REALLY sad about microblogging and it is going to take time for people to get excited about it again like they do for the 'grams and the 'toks.

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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

We feel good.

[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's quite good, in my opinion. If we had some bridge to lemmy's posts, it would be even better. Also I've checked and if you like or comment a mastodon post from Pixelfed you'll receive the notification, so, it's something🤷‍♂️.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The mood and anger here is starting to feel like Reddit recently and now I know why

[–] RickyWars@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Well it doesn't seem like there's been another Reddit exodus, especially from looking at the user numbers for Lemmy. There hasn't been a big screwup lately like with Meta or Twitter (but I think Bluesky is absorbing the Twitter refugees currently).

[–] TehBamski@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago
[–] Damage@feddit.it 5 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Is there a way to peruse pixelfed feeds from Lemmy or Mastodon? Or do I have to make yet another account?

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Has PixelFed done something different that Mastodon hasn't?

I suspect image browsing is less reliant on specific content creators, so Pixelfed probably has an advantage there compared to something like Mastodon. You're only going to move to Mastodon if the people you wanna follow are there too, while if you're for example just looking to browse pictures of food and cats you don't really care who is posting so you're not as reluctant to try Pixelfed.

I don't use either Instagram or Pixelfed though so might be totally off base here.

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

IG was always much bigger than Reddit.

Good to see people moving to Pixelfed though.

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