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[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

It's nice of you to leal to Israel but that's not what I was referring to.

There's other policies that the Democrats could have absolutely pushed for. For instance reinstating the protection plans under the American relief plan that they allowed to expire in 2022. You know the thing they said massively reduce child poverty only for it to go immediately back up when those protections ended. I feel like that would have been a great place for the Dems to start. We're talking basic fucking things like a Band-Aid fix on Healthcare would be enough to mobilize the base but they're not even willing to do that. Kamalas pathetic approach to Home Care was to give first-time home buyers $12,000. This is stupid because nobody can afford a house or get the mortgage for the house because the banks aren't satisfied with their debt to income ratio. Nothing about dealing with rent nothing about promising that linacon would stay on. Nothing about dealing with that internet driven rent demand bullshit from that company called real price. These aren't leftist points either just broad liberal points.

[–] FediNeko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 6 days ago

Coworker: "I hate trump, he should never be president!" Me: "So you're voting Harris?" Coworker: "I don't know if we're ready for a WoMaN president"

Asking for a friend, where is the nearest cliff? He would like to go jump off of it.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 34 points 6 days ago

Good thing they got rid of Genocide Joe to pave the way Death dealing Donny

[–] adhdplantdev@lemm.ee 33 points 6 days ago (13 children)

Maybe the political party should have conformed to the pressure of the people who vote in its party. Just saying.

[–] Aabbcc@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Dems would rather lose than appeal to what americans actually want.

Also funny to imagine protest voters being powerful enough to sway the election but not powerful enough for Dems to listen to

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[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 28 points 6 days ago (7 children)

If only they'd put this much effort into getting one person to change her mind on the issue, instead of trying to get 10 million people to change their morals.

It appears especially ghoulish now after it came out that even her campaign's polling showed that it was a losing position.

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

The Protest Vote Paradox™

As we’ve all read time after time in the months leading up to the election, the Protest Vote™ simply states states that:

“We refuse to vote against a Tyrant-Felon in order to send a clear and concise message that we will not stand for [roll D20 for random popular single issue], and alongside our refusal to vote against the Tyrant-Felon, is a collective hope that the aforementioned clear and concise message- if ignored, is received under unmitigated duress!”

-Cut to Tyrant-Felon’s win, and the aftermath:

Wether observed or not, the behavior of the Protest Voter will attempt to achieve the following:
• Obnoxiously tell everyone “We told you all what would happen!”
• Claim there is “No way protest voting could cause trump to win.”

As both of these options cannot simultaneously be true in the same reality without breaking important time-space things that we would probably prefer not be broken- we are left with only a few logical conclusions:

  1. Protest voters have no idea what they’re talking about.
  2. Protest voters don’t understand the concept of hypocrisy.
  3. Protest voters have somehow learned to defy reality and become exempt from the concept of paradoxes, thus creating an entirely new study of theoretical science, known as Bulletproof Symbiotic Hypocrisy Theory, or BLsHt.

Something, something, something Ted Talk.

[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (7 children)

You forgot that they will also claim that it is the fault of the opposition to fascism party that they didn't "convince them to vote for them" even though they had already made up their mind ages before the election even started that they would never vote for the opposition to fascism party because they don't actually care about [popular single issue] or stopping fascists. They just want to feel like special little snowflakes who are part of the "revolution" and want to see the whole system destroyed and the violence that goes along with it because they're simply bored.

See the other reply for a perfect example.

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[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

If you vote for quick genocide or slow genocide you are still voting for genocide

If you vote for the lesser evil, you are still voting for evil. I am sorry that your morals are so bankrupt that you're willing to let your own country murder hundreds of thousands of people in cold blood and not care.

Lets not rewrite history and pretend that Biden/Harris were good for Palestinians. They vetoed every single ceasefire that came up, and were the only country to do so.

They lost this election themselves by not listening to their base. The fault started and remains and ends with the establishment democratic party

[–] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 3 points 5 days ago (24 children)

If the options are evil and lesser evil, you are morally obligated to choose lesser evil. There is no neutral stance. If you didn't vote for the democrats, you strengthened the republicans. Don't call people morally bankrupt when you don't know what you're talking about. The US will regress into autocracy and people like you are partially responsible.

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Reminder that the West Bank is the one that's not even ruled by Hamas and hasn't attacked Israel. If Israel tried to do this under Harris, no doubt weapons would've been cut off and the US might have even favored sanctions.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Lol why? Gaza is illegally occupied too.

Thousands of dead babies wasn't enough for her or Biden. Rafah was a red line apparently and now Rafah doesn't exist

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

FAFO! Big time. Bunch of idiots. They do not understand that Israel has the USA by the balls and this has been going on since the USS Liberty.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (6 children)
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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 days ago

Democrats are mentally incapable of even considering the possibility that their losing to Trump two out of the three times they've ran the exact same campaign and candidate is their own responsibility. No, it must be the *checks notes* people who wanted them to be a little more critical of killing Arabs who are responsible. Wonder who you'll blame when Trump inevitably runs for a third term and you decide to copy/paste your campaign strategy and candidate because you've learned abso-fucking-lutely nothing. I'm betting "people who don't worship trillionaires enough", because we'll have some by then.

[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You think they actually gave a shit.

Palestine was just the latest version of "The Issue"

Someone they can make their entire personality to make themselves look good.

[–] LotrOrc@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah yeah people just were being dramatic and standing on such a small, unnecessary issue. It was only genocide

We should have been focusing on the price of eggs instead

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