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[–] uis@lemm.ee 15 points 6 days ago

Many lossless codecs are lossy codecs + residual encoders. For example FLAC has predictor(lossy codec) + residual.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

Could also stand for Lazy DumbAss Cat if the pic is any relation

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 205 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's loss-less, not loss-none

[–] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dang it, was going to make this same joke lol

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 days ago

It's a good joke

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 162 points 1 week ago (10 children)

We really need someone other than Qualcomm & Apple to come up with lossless Bluetooth audio codecs.

TBF the whole Bluetooth audio situation is a complete mess

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 68 points 1 week ago (12 children)

Opus! It's a merge of a codec designed for speech (from Skype!) with one designed for high quality audio by Xiph (same people who made OGG/Vorbis).

Although it needs some more work on latency, it prefers to work on bigger frames but default than Bluetooth packets likes, but I've seen there's work on standardizing a version that fits Bluetooth. Google even has it implemented now on Pixel devices.

Fully free codec!

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[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Bluetooth as a whole is kind of a mess if we’re being honest.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's what happens when you have a 25 year old protocol and try to maintain backwards compatibility through all of the versions.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The world of audio would be more of a mess if Bluetooth was developed scrapped and replaced according to what seems to be your recommendations. I'm glad they did it the way they did.

It's not time for change. Just alternatives for snobs.

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[–] legion02@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Proprietary by Sony, but they did open source it

[–] spazzman6156@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Don't they make the encoder free, but license the decoder?

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[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 23 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wait, did Apple implement its own codec? I thought even the Airpods Max used AAC, which is lossy.

As for Qualcomm, only aptX Lossless is lossless and I'm not aware of many products supporting it (most supports aptX HD at most)

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yeah, the problem (imo) isn't lossy v lossless. It's that the supported codecs are part of the Bluetooth standard and they were developed in like the 90s.

There are far better codecs out there and we can't use them without incompatible extensions on Bluetooth.

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[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 78 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Ah, misleading use of terminology that indicates one thing, but will win in court even if it actually means, or can later be said to mean, another.

I hope those involved in helping companies win these lawsuits choke on bones from food sold as boneless. Because that won a court case after "boneless" was redefined as a cooking method.

I don't want them to choke to death. Just a little lesson, you know?

[–] forrgott@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I vote they choke indefinitely. But not to death; I want them to die of old age, spending decade upon decade choking endlessly.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As unfortunate as the naming misdirection is, I have to say: LDAC sounds significantly better (to me) than other Bluetooth codecs I have tried. It also works on Linux and android with no issues whatsoever. Open source is good.

I use it with a pair of Sony XM5's, which can also be used in wired mode, so you kind of get the best of both worlds.

[–] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I highly doubt that. Do a proper ABx test (such as the one on digitalfeed.xyz) I have yet to meet someone who can pass the tests with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You highly doubt my personal experience?

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)
[–] sus@programming.dev 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

at high signal strength LDAC should default to 990kbps.. which is kind of ridiculous since it's so high it's higher than some lossless codecs, like uncompressed 16-bit 48kHz. (which is higher than standard CD quality)

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

That's assuming raw PCM data, no compression (lossy or lossless) whatsoever.

LDAC can do lossless redbook audio (16 bit 44.1 KHz) at 990kbps. All other modes are lossy.
It's probably doing something much like FLAC- lossy encoder + residual corrections to ensure you get the original waveform back out, but with less bandwidth than raw PCM.

[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Uncompressed 16 bit 48KHz stereo is 1536 kbps, which is just slightly higher than what bluetooth 5 is capable of.

[–] sus@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago

Oh I forgot about stereo, ha.

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[–] reminiscensdeus@lemm.ee 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Does this meme format / cat have a name? I was trying to find the raw version the other day and could not.

[–] sjmarf@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

> knowyourmeme link

> look inside

> cat

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