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    [โ€“] HStone32@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

    The amount of time my classmates have spent dealing with vscode crashing, freezing, breaking, etc is way beyond negligible. And yet, I'm the weird guy apparently for preferring vim and GCC.

    [โ€“] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)
    [โ€“] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    The full name is VScodium. https://vscodium.com/

    Codium is a genus of edible green macroalgae.

    [โ€“] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    That sounds tasty, where do I buy it?

    [โ€“] HStone32@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

    (In homer Simpsons voice) Mmmmmm. Macroalgae.

    [โ€“] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

    South Korea is the leading consumer and producer of farmed Codium (commonly known as cheonggak)

    Search for that.

    [โ€“] Lemjukes@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Ooooh thank you for reminding me I need to make this switch

    [โ€“] stetech@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    To you, @toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl, and anyone else planning to do the switch:

    Back when I was still a VSC(odium) user, you needed to perform a small tweak to regain access to the quite useful extensions marketplace (in the sense of, paste the extension ID, see the same results as a M$ VSCode user*): There is a file named product.json which allows you to โ€œregainโ€ access if you populate it with the following values:

    {
      "extensionsGallery": {
        "serviceUrl": "https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/_apis/public/gallery",
        "itemUrl": "https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items",
        "cacheUrl": "https://vscode.blob.core.windows.net/gallery/index",
        "controlUrl": ""
      }
    }
    

    (Taken from my old dotfiles, so this may be outdated, not sure. Also, youโ€™ll have to look up the location of this file, it will differ depending on OS. On macOS it goes in ~/Library/Application Support/VSCodium.)

    *If you do not need this 1:1 identical functionality, you may try the Open VSX marketplace. But especially in a class setting, I found this very useful, since all the tutorials/instructions will work without needing adaptation.

    [โ€“] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago

    Good to know, thanks for passing this on!

    [โ€“] toothpaste_ostrich@feddit.nl 1 points 5 months ago

    Hadn't heard of this, but I'm going to switch now!

    [โ€“] flamingos@feddit.uk 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If Vim is so good, then why can't you browse Lemmy from it?

    This meme was made by the Emacs gang.

    [โ€“] Badland9085@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Because unlike emacs gang, we donโ€™t need to build an OS to browse Lemmy.

    How bout you go back and let your friends know that if theyโ€™re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)

    [โ€“] django@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Vim needs are met by using Evil-Mode. You don't have to leave Emacs for this.

    [โ€“] Badland9085@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

    As a poke at Emacs'ย creeping featurism, vi advocates have been known to describe Emacs as "a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Editor_war

    :P

    *stealthily closes nano window and closes laptop lid...

    [โ€“] flamingos@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    How bout you go back and let your friends know that if theyโ€™re in need of a good editor, try Vim ;)

    If my friends wanted a good editor, then I wouldn't recommend a Vimitor, I'd recommend ed, the standard text EDitor :p

    [โ€“] Badland9085@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

    Haha, yโ€™all are welcome to try that ;)

    [โ€“] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

    laughs in Emacs

    [โ€“] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Meanwhile, James rocks up with Notepad++

    [โ€“] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 months ago

    The Fiat Panda of text editors

    [โ€“] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

    I always edit my code in microsoft word. Not only can it highlight syntax, it can use different fonts for different function names.

    Definitely the most fully featured IDE Iโ€™ve ever used.

    [โ€“] nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    smh real programmers use magnetized needles on tape

    [โ€“] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I would argue that vim is fantastic for a lot of editing and coding tasks, just not all of them.

    Where it utterly fails is with deep trees of files in codebases, like you see in Java or some Javascript/Typescript apps. Even with a robust suite of add-ons, you wind up backing into full-bore IDE territory to manage that much filesystem complexity. Only difference is that navigating and managing a large file tree w/o a mouse is kind of torture.

    [โ€“] ivn@jlai.lu 2 points 5 months ago

    Fuzzy finding really shine for this use case, no need for a mouse.

    [โ€“] murtaza64@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

    Once I got used to single-directory filetree browsing plus fuzzy finding, I have never been able to comfortably use a traditional filetree anymore. most of them are not designed for efficient keyboard use (vscode and intellij at least) and don't really help understanding the structure of the project imo (unless there arent that many files). For massive projects I find it easier to spend the initial effort of learning a few directory names and the vague structure using oil.nvim, and then eventually I can just find what I need almost instantly by fuzzy finding.

    [โ€“] expr@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

    File-based navigation is often inefficient anyway (symbolic navigation is much better when you can), but if you do need it, that's what fuzzy finders are for. Blows any mouse-based navigation out of the water.

    The only time a visual structure is useful is when you are actually just interested in learning how things are structured for whatever reason, but for that task, tree works just fine anyway.

    [โ€“] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago

    I feel like Iโ€™m the only person using KDevelop

    [โ€“] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Have been a professional software engineer for 8 years now. Have yet to find a reason to use vim for anything (other than availability of course, but if nano isn't installed for some godforsaken reason I have other problems lol).

    [โ€“] chellomere@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

    Professional software engineer here, using vim as my primary editor.

    [โ€“] CubitOom@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I used to think this way. Until I found that with emacs you can edit any file on an SSH enabled computer remotely. Meaning that not only are you no longer constrained by what the computer has installed. But you can use your personality configured editor while editing that file. It's called tramp.

    BTW, with Emacs you can use vim key bindings evil-mode, so don't stress about that.

    [โ€“] folkrav@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Tramp is more featured, but if all one cares about is being able to edit remote files using a local editor, vim can edit remote files with scp too: scp://user@server[:port]//remote/file.txt

    I tried tramp-mode at some point, but I seem to remember some gotchas with LSP and pretty bleh latency, which didn't make it all that useful to me... But I admittedly didn't spend much time in emacs land.

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    [โ€“] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    You can do that with vscode too. And probably many IDEs.

    The only real reason for which you would need to use vim in such cases is if the target computer can't run the vscode server, which I've never encountered yet.

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    [โ€“] AntY@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

    Vim is a way more competent editor than nano. If you spend a lot of time editing files via ssh, vim is amazing. And when you get bitten by it, youโ€™re infected. ;-)

    [โ€“] toynbee@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    I've been in various forms of coding and administration for around fifteen years now. Despite trying lots of editors, I have yet to find a reason to use anything but vim.

    I do like obsidian for note taking.

    edit: Removed typo.

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    [โ€“] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    I plan on moving to a nice Neovim setup eventually, but VSCodium is so convenient out of the box for a baby developer like me.

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    [โ€“] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)
    [โ€“] joytoy@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago

    ๐Ÿ‘‹ present!

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    [โ€“] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)
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    [โ€“] udon@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    tbh, one of the essential things vim gets right for me is that it's designed as a text editor, not (only) a code editor. I use it for so much non-code text as well, but it feels weird opening a coding tool for such things.

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    [โ€“] NeilBru@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (9 children)
    [โ€“] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

    I switched to zed too. It's not perfect but it's just nice to use a different editor that is not sluggish.

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    [โ€“] muse@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    That can't be right, the red car has a service manual and too many functioning assemblies for it to be VS.

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