this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2025
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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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I don't expect this to play particularly well here, and maybe I'm just being conspiratorial, but here goes:

I banned jordanlund@lemmy.world from !transgender@lemmy.blahajzone earlier today- he literally posted a matt walsh youtube link and was being otherwise transphobic in a space where that gets you banned. (link)

one of jordanlunds removed comments w/ matt walsh video:

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the reason I put down was 'trolling about neopronouns' I stand by that, it was violating instance rules and was unacceptable behavior from a moderator of another instance.

Shortly after that I got banned from news@lemmy.world for 'trolling'. To be clear, jordanlund does not moderate news@lemmy.world, but the timing struck me as an odd coincidence.

The .world thread in question (link)

I was expressing my actual opinion/position on this, if anything the post I was replying to should be considered a rule 1 violation implying leftists are russian/under russian sway:

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The removed comments that I was banned (permanent) for were just me being earnest about my position, which you're welcome to disagree with.

I don't view protecting my rights as something worth sacrificing other people for, even if they're on the other side of the planet. You can be mad at me or hate me for that, but I'm not trolling.

People replying felt it was reasonable to call me an idiot for example, yet another example of selective moderation. on .world.

I don't have any conclusive proof that my banning Jordanlund and then getting banned are related other than the suspicious timing, I welcome clarification.

Anyway in the interest of neutrality and transparency I submit both my ban and jordanlunds for review.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm beginning to think that .world should be avoided. Not defederated, but mirror subs should be started on other instances and everyone who doesn't like this attitude / activity should deliberately boycott .world subs in favor of the alternatives.

Somewhat of an aside, I think this sort of behavior is far worse than what got everybody up in arms about Hexbear. I never disliked Hexbears; I see them as a tight-knit community that existed for multiple years before the Lemmy influx from the old site. I think they genuinely felt despair over the changes that federation brought to their instance and I feel sorry for them. Maybe if people make enough noise about the bad behavior of .world mods we can raise awareness and effect change.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you! I had drinks with a friend and will be off to sleep soon, but I opened your comment in another window to take action tomorrow.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Happy to help

[–] Zomg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm confused I guess. You banned a lw mod, then got banned on a lw news instance, and you think it's more than coincidence?

I guess it'd be hard to prove, but imo (which isn't worth anything) I doubt that's the case.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

It turns out it was a coincidence, they even reverted the ban on me in the end too.

The two bans still strike me as a good example of archetypes of heavy-moderation action taken in different context. Shutting down a dissenting voice on a general/news board vs shutting down someone behaving badly in a more regulated space. I don't even want to give the .world moderator who banned me a hard time, because I know how hard it can be trying to figure out what is going on in a conversation that just got reported by a bunch of people. The fact that they reverted it after pushback was enough for me, and hopefully it sets an example for the future.

There's definitely a separate discussion to be had about the tendency to shut down dissent from the left in centrist/liberal spaces and characterizing it instead as 'right-wing/russian trolling.' Maybe that's more comforting than sitting with the criticism, but I don't think it's a productive way to approach political conversations.

[–] WrittenInRed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I hate how quick world is to mass downvote, accuse of being a russian troll, or just straight up remove comments from people who express any sort of actual left-wing opinion. Reading through that whole comment thread there was nothing you said that came across as trolling. Its kinda exhausting how many people take any criticism of the democratic party as being support for Trump, or believe voting is the most important and only way to change anything. I get closer to just blocking world entirely every day tbh.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (30 children)

.world thinks if you give reasoned arguments, reputable sources, and have a logical criticism of a liberal, you're actually just a Russian bot, China shill, trump stan, or whatever it is this week.

Being morally consistent is a negative to them and must be punished.

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[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

I get closer to just blocking world entirely every day tbh.

Most of my blocklist is .world members, some shitjustworks, some hexbear, some .ml. And then there's some members from a libertarian instance I never remember.

It doesn't help that .world is the biggest one, but it feels every single smug asshole who wants to put you on their "internet arguments won comp #13" collection is from .world

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