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ID: Kомисcap Rareș is gay for Skye @DerLinkePixel posted:

"Boss makes a dollar

I make a dime

That was a poem

From a simpler time

Boss makes a hundred

I don't make jack

That's why I riot

To seize the means back"

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[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 3 points 1 week ago

Mushrooms are good.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

We can't even seize the memes back (from the megacorps of Twatter, Google, Facebook, Reddit, etc).

Yet I'm hopeful there will come a time people will see the fossy light, the means working for the people and the better of society.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And yet here we are, carving out our own little corner of the internet where profit doesn't come first, and we share silly pictures and laugh together.

Big picture may suck, but don't forget to appreciate the small good in front of you ❤️

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, you are right!

And the projects & development are bountiful (like really, the communities & user bases are growing - look how well KDE did in December), let's support our fav projects!

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kharma is your life's purpose and has more weight from meaning upon the purpose of existence than every dollar on the planet will carry of truth.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

(Not to be confused with Reddit karma or whatever it was :D.)

[–] Chakravanti@monero.town 1 points 1 week ago

That is literally an attempt to steal meaning from real Kharma. It works about as well as money. It'll deceive people until they're not people anymore.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are you hopeful in the "I wish this to happen" sense? Or the "I have reason to believe it's happening" sense?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm not answering that question on the grounds of /checks notes to make sure it's precise/ it will make me more sad and depressed.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, I was hoping for a reason to be optimistic...

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I know, I'm sorry as well :(.
Best I can do is hoping gamers switch full time to Linux & see other/general benefits of what free & open software really means.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Foss isn't much better, it's still very much subject to the whims of capitalism and hierarchy.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Yes, I'm sure we would be in for a shitshow or a couple, but a nicely federated media offers natural caps to the extend of corpo fuckery and can heal easier & more seamlessly.

Plus, you know, less support for shitty global business practices.

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago

Back in my day, it was "Help me buy a summer home."

Now it's, "Help me buy a yacht, a skyscraper, 14 cybertrucks and a way to funnel this to Trump."

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Writing cute memes isn’t “rioting” and that’s why we will remain fucked, because nobody actually does it

[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you think revolution spontaneously combusts in to existence, without any previous spreading of ideas and reaching out to the disenfranchised, or that it only happens on the front lines?

Yeah, I think I'll pass on your confidently incorrect take lmfao

[–] Tja@programming.dev -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which means exactly are we seizing back?

Because I already own my means of production... And in western countries, where 80%+ of population works in the services sector, it's not a unique situation. A lawyer, an accountant, even a mechanic or electrician already own their means of production.

We don't live in the 1800s anymore...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lawyers, accountants, and electricians are often self-employed, which is unusual for the service sector. It's more common to be a mechanic being exploited by Jiffy-Lube. Even doctors are starting to not own their own practices more frequently.

If unionization didn't work, then every employer would be fine with them.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So why is it more common for mechanics to be exploited by jiffy lube? Other than things that require the dealership (to keep the warranty, for instance) I always go to small shops, with max 2 or 3 employees. As far as I know, jacks, wrenches and screwdrivers haven't gotten up in price. In my opinion, starting your own shop is hard and people prefer to go the easy way.

I know I did. I myself was self-employed for a while and I went back to a salary, the few extra bucks are not worth the effort. Yes, my employer makes some profit from my work and we have a millionaire CEO, but I can go on vacation or call in sick without stress consuming my time. I'm not in the US tho...

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're saying that you own the means of your production while working under an employer, then we might have different definitions of these words.

Screwdrivers are a trivial component in the "barrier to entry" to starting a business. Those extra bucks to you can be a very significant "surplus value" for most employees.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My means of production are a laptop and an internet connection. I have both. My employer can keep the surplus value, as long as they do the customer handling, accounting, marketing, etc, all of which I had to do myself being self-employed.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you own the servers your company use? The software you write? Etc.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -1 points 1 week ago

We rent servers in the cloud because it's cheaper than owning them. I did the same for some projects when I was freelancing.

The software I write... I don't own it, same as an electrician doesn't own the cables he installs in your house. It's the product I'm getting paid to create, why would I own it?

This whole "we should own the means of production" screams of 19th century farmers and factory workers. It's 2025, plenty of people already own their means of production, from IT bros and lawyers to farmers, electricians and cleaning personnel. And communism didn't have to do anything with it.