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I don't know if I'm going crazy but looking at the current situation in the world ... please tell me that I'm overexagurating

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[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don’t expect it, but I don’t rule it out either.

Just a warning for everyone who isn’t worried: you expect that the leaders of the world act logically and like adults. That might be a mistake.

[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Actually I don't expect them to act logically or "adult", whatever you mean by that. Adulthood doesn't mean anything.

But that they don't act like that is exactly why I think there won't be any world scale wars.

It’ll take longer than 2 years. It’ll take a decade.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I highly doubt that WWIII will happen (within the next few years), however I forsee the next several years to not be peacful. There will be several (regional/civil) despites that will most likley occur and the chances of any of them escalating is highly unlikley. Here are the conflicts I forsee:

  • Continued Syrian Civil War: wont be pretty but escalation is unlikely
  • Palestinian occupation: Will absolutely continue to be horrific but none of the neighboring Arab counties care enough to escalate (or risk US aid)
  • Russia/Ukraine war: Russia will get some territory and thats about it, probrally just the Russian majority areas. After that the EU will intimidate Russia to back off.
  • India/China border dispute: They'll make a lot of noise, actural fighting is unlikely
  • US/Canada/Mexico/Greenland conflict: Who knows tbh, most likley Trump is running off his mouth as always
  • China/Taiwan: I severly doubt it, in addition the US is moving microchip manufacturing to the US so strategic value may loosen

Worst case scenario here is a full blown war between the EU and Russia, the US likley wont get involved (Trump doesnt care about Europe) and neither will China (both counties might send aid respectively). It would probrally end with Russia surrendering followed by them loosing no land and maybe a regime change plus some political reforms.

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[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago

So, WW3 won't happen until the oligarchy says it's time. Not sure why now would be the time, but I suppose it could be. There's like a billion people in the world making a dollar a day, a few billion people only making a few dollars a day... That's a few billion dollars per day the oligarchy almost certainly thinks belongs in their pocket instead. So I could see them continuing to squeeze the world for every last drop of wealth, which I think will cause unrest in a lot of places. Add climate change to that and I think things just get bad everywhere for most people. Obviously the oligarchy will just go to their islands, yachts, bunkers until a few billion are dead and they can pop back out with their private armies ready to "save" the world.

A lot of people think they need us to buy their trinkets, but the entire consumer middle class is only like 100 years old, and I think was only designed to keep us distracted while they plundered the world. Now that a small handful of people own everything, and soon enough robots and AI will replace most human labor, it's mission accomplished and we can go back to feudalism where they are gods and everyone else is slaves.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

My vibes based analysis says atleast in the next ten years

[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Current circumstances do seem worrisome. But, we've been threatened with that for all my life, and even decades before I was born. So who knows. MAD is a certain thing and I don't think entire countries are unstable enough to let that happen. I'm not really sure what Putin is getting at threatening all of Europe. The situation with China and Taiwan doesn't look good, with the US pledge of taking Taiwan's side for independence.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No I really don't I see water wars and cold war style espionage but no WW2 style conflict. But I also think we will have Societal collapse by 2030 due to climate change and being unable to grow food. Honestly after Cheeto got reelected I have just gone numb to all the of it. I am savoring each day.

I hug my love ones just a little longer than I used to. I write a log of each day to I remember it a little better. I have made a bucket list and I'm trying to check off as much as possible. But even with all that I sometimes catch myself mourning the earth. Also it's good to video your love ones it's awkward but it will be nice to hear their voice when you can't anymore.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Defeated resignation is romantic and all but maybe we ought to use this energy to tear down the system before it destroys us. Get organized with a revolutionary party, yesterday. Nothing was ever fixed by sitting around feeling sorry for yourself.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No you are right if it was just a country's policy that could be reversed that would be one thing but we already hit 1.5C and even if stopped everything today it's going to be rough but we are not stopping everything today. We are going to accelerate for the next 4 years to make old rich people even richer. The climate doesn't stop on a dime if we stop at 3C it will coast on its own to 4C. Also I do help where I can to ease the suffering around me. I donate $300 a month to my local food bank it's not much but they tell me that's feeds 20 people. I am part of a Mutual Aid Network. I still help I just have switched my energy from trying to change things to just harm reduction. Kind of like human civilization is on hospice and I'm the nurse that is just giving them morphine.

Note I do this as a disabled veteran that needs a certain medicine in order to live. Once that med can't be made I become confined to my bed then die a little after.

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's fair enough, what you're doing is already far more than most people. That's awesome. Just trying to show the audience out there that there is more to be done, we can't allow defeatism to suppress activism in a country where fervent, unrelenting activism is the only way shit gets done πŸ’ͺ

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No you are 100% right I should probably delete my post to not put more of that out in the world. Or change it to be more what my main focus is spend time with the people you love as we don't have much time left but I guess that could be about anything we could get by a bus at any moment.

[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I would say world war is still years away, but if SK in your name means slovakia then comfort yourself that you might find yourself in the early BRICS block vs US empire wars, so hopefully it'll be over without too much war in your country soon.

[–] Amaterasu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

No one in Europe would be safe in a nuclear war.

[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

No but there will be wars.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You're not overexagerating, the property crisis in the imperial core is becoming so severe that there are only 2 solutions, either the people rebel against its ruling class or they side with them and engage in yet another settler project. In my honest opinion, the latter seems like the most probably outcome, its already very advanced in Palestine and its starting in Syria.

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago

I think it il depend on the military industrial complex in the USA and whether they decide to off Trump or not. If Trump goes isolationist then they'll probably merc him. If he invades Panama and starts a hot war with Iran then there probably won't be a world war (ironically). If China invades Taiwan and the US blinks then there won't be a world war. If the US attacks China for taking over Taiwan then we'll be in a world war.

[–] BJHanssen@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nah we’re speedrunning the 20s currently, so it’ll probably be another ten, fifteen years or so.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

There are bad things happening in the world, conflicts, ecological disasters, economic upheavels, and political upheavals. It's easy to look at these bad things and assume things are much worse than they are. Nobody wants there to be a world war 3.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We already are, just in a smaller scale than ww1 and 2

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

In the previous world wars there were various alliances between many countries, but eventually two sides emerged. If you see two clear sides engaging in active warfare against each other, you'll know that WW3 has started. At the moment, it's a bit more complicated than that. Seems to me that there are a bunch of disconnected conflicts going on, but the big picture of a proper world war hasn't really emerged yet.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see two clear sides engaging in numerous proxy wars with eachother at the very least. I wouldn't call it comparable to either world wars yet but it puts me on my toes

Actually now that you put it that way, this is beginning to sound a lot like the cold war.

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Many will say that World War Three cannot happen, that nuclear weapons will prevent it. However, this assumes that World War Three has to be global thermonuclear war, rather than some repeat of the previous world wars.

Cities don't have to be leveled for nations to fight a world war. The US fought two world wars, and we never had our cities and infrastructure decimated. What I can imagine is a future world war where all the major players fight the war in the same way the US fought the two previous wars. Both sides contribute massive resources, adopt wartime economies, throw their whole populations behind the effort etc, but at no point do the various combatants directly attack the main territory and population centers of the other side. You could have a conflict where both sides lost millions of troops fighting it out in some third party territory, but the nukes never fly as all sides realize that invading the home territory of the others is suicide.

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